"RUMOURS" PlayStation to make their PSN/SEN (Online Network) paid for.

Sony and Microsoft both have their issues and doubts. Let's just say that. Both XBL/PSN have benefits and drawbacks.
 
Equal treatment with all the other regions? A proper integrated (at OS level) party and invite system, party chat, cross game chat?
Better uptime (for me at least, never had downtime since Xmas 2008), faster servers (patching on my now sold 360 was much quicker then in my now also sold ps3 - never obtained the same DL speed.

I could go on, PSN was a tacked on experience (probably caught out by Live's integration at the 360 reveal ) and it showed. Hopefully PS4 fixes things

What poor treatment has PS EU got? I personally can't remember any I had.

Yes, I did say cross game chat as one of the things it offers over PSN.

I've had times where xbox live is down wanting to play madden or fifa, I have also had downtime on psn though, thankfully I didn't play during that really bad time.

Download speeds for me are both a joke compared to my pc.

I'd agree PSN was tacked on, but it has a much better store (navigating the xbox one is horrendous, particularly a few dashboards ago).
The fact you have to subscribe to use services such as netflix is a joke, a subscription to use my subscription?
Also DLC purchased using a points system is also awful.
Finally free games for paying a subscription + discounts etc. Or adverts for paying a subscription.


The only thing thing live has over psn for me is the ability to play with your friends easily, which to be fair is one of, if not the most important thing.
 
What poor treatment has PS EU got? I personally can't remember any I had.

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Download speeds for me are both a joke compared to my

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The only thing thing live has over psn for me is the ability to play with your friends easily, which to be fair is one of, if not the most important thing.

EU regularly gets patches, demo's and DLC weeks after JP and US, which is really annoying :<
I suspect it's due to Sony having a "day to update the store" and stick to it religiously.

DL speeds on live rival my mac, so no issue there! Although PSN takes a lifetime :/

And glad you can agree about it being tacked on, I hope it's better this time! :)
 
Can't say I've noticed patches/DLC weeks after JP and US and the only demos I ever get are madden/fifa which are usually out earlier on 360 anyways aren't they?

Who is your provider?

My xbox and PS are both snail pace, whilst I can download off steam at 14mb/s =/

I'm sure it will improve, they bleated on with buzzwords about that social crap for long enough for last night, but basically as long as I can play with friends/communicate with them easily I'll be happy.

Microsoft own Skype now don't they and plan on integrating it? That's like really good, maybe Sony could hit a deal with RaidCall or something to at least have cross platform chat.

Also Sony choosing Ustream as their streaming platform is terrible.
 
I'd expect the quality to be better.

I would too, but what can we say.

Can't say I've noticed patches/DLC weeks after JP and US and the only demos I ever get are madden/fifa which are usually out earlier on 360 anyways aren't they?

Who is your provider?

My xbox and PS are both snail pace, whilst I can download off steam at 14mb/s =/

I'm sure it will improve, they bleated on with buzzwords about that social crap for long enough for last night, but basically as long as I can play with friends/communicate with them easily I'll be happy.

Microsoft own Skype now don't they and plan on integrating it? That's like really good, maybe Sony could hit a deal with RaidCall or something to at least have cross platform chat.

Also Sony choosing Ustream as their streaming platform is terrible.

You have an extremely strong/positive point.

The alternative is ads and Kinect games...

I dunno, I dont like where Microsoft is going with Ballmer, I hope they fire the guy.

Microsoft/XBOX will have to do something in order to compete against Sony/PlayStation if this is true.
 
I've been using the PS3 a lot more than my 360 lately. Used to get crappy dl speeds but its been pretty fast of late. I prefer the layout of the store too when compared to xbl. I'd happily pay a yearly sub to use the ps4 features - especially if they continue with something similar to the current setup.
 
I've been using the PS3 a lot more than my 360 lately. Used to get crappy dl speeds but its been pretty fast of late. I prefer the layout of the store too when compared to xbl. I'd happily pay a yearly sub to use the ps4 features - especially if they continue with something similar to the current setup.

I agree, but XBOX/XBL (Microsoft) will have to publish and create something equal and big for XBL users. I bet it will be released along side with the XBOX 720. :)
 
Dlc etc on Xbox is normally out earlier because of Microsoft selling themself to developers (Mw3 for example) in an attempt to stem the slide to ps3. IMO Xbox 360 was a better designed concept from the outset and live is what ps3 should have started with. The fact is with no more Halo less people saw the need to chose between systems, a lot of people went with the ps3 because of the free psn (even if it was worse).

If Sony integrate psn better and make it a smoother user experience together with exclusives such as those games shown at ps4 launch, surely price is the deciding factor. Keep it free they will steal the market, make basic online gaming sold at a 'premium' and you have got yourself a Microsoft convert right here.

I hated those 3 months that psn was down. Although I agree that they had to go in and fix it properly, I can't help but think that if it had been designed properly in the first place rather than tacked on, hackers wouldn't have been able to exploit it as far as they did and it would have been quicker to fix. And before the flame war commences I have never owned a Microsoft product and have had every playstation since the ps1
 
Dlc etc on Xbox is normally out earlier because of Microsoft selling themself to developers (Mw3 for example) in an attempt to stem the slide to ps3. IMO Xbox 360 was a better designed concept from the outset and live is what ps3 should have started with. The fact is with no more Halo less people saw the need to chose between systems, a lot of people went with the ps3 because of the free psn (even if it was worse).

If Sony integrate psn better and make it a smoother user experience together with exclusives such as those games shown at ps4 launch, surely price is the deciding factor. Keep it free they will steal the market, make basic online gaming sold at a 'premium' and you have got yourself a Microsoft convert right here.

I hated those 3 months that psn was down. Although I agree that they had to go in and fix it properly, I can't help but think that if it had been designed properly in the first place rather than tacked on, hackers wouldn't have been able to exploit it as far as they did and it would have been quicker to fix. And before the flame war commences I have never owned a Microsoft product and have had every playstation since the ps1

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I've definitely got to agree there. I've also had the PS3 for 2 years, but traded shortly after the PSN went down for those "3 months". I love both consoles, but trust XBOX more than PS3 on the support. Had no issues with their support and it is also free. Although PlayStation's support has a fee attached to it meaning you're paying to phone them up. It's quite expensive as well.

On the whole I hope both brands do great. I may purchase a PS3 cheaply, but buy the PS4 when sales are down after 2 years or more of its release later this year (roughly 2015 summer). I enjoyed the Killzone series as well as the Resistance series. Both had action packed Campaign/story modes. Just like Halo does for the XBOX. I also hope PSN does improve and XBOX start to offer some freebies and free stuff for paying/taking part in a years XBL Gold subscription.
 
Sony get Battlefield DLC before Xbox so it's swings and roundabouts, and both would sell themselves to get extra DLC or early access so not sure how you say its just MS doing it to stop people going to PS3.

Not sure how you mean no more Halo either, it's still going? Halo 4 just came out 4 months ago.
 
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