I was talking single GPUs like a 1.2ghz+ Tahiti chip. At 1.2ghz, a Tahiti chip should be at the same level as what we've been seeing leaked about Titan, as pgi said.
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AMD working on Malta dual-chip card
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I was talking single GPUs like a 1.2ghz+ Tahiti chip. At 1.2ghz, a Tahiti chip should be at the same level as what we've been seeing leaked about Titan, as pgi said.
Whatever it is they release I hope it doesn't take nearly a year to put proper performance drivers out. Just imagine if the 7 series launched with the 12.11 drivers 
I know, my reply wasn't aimed at you
it was aimed at the dual GPU card suggested in the OP. A 1.2ghz Tahiti chip would be awesome.
I know, my reply wasn't aimed at you
it was aimed at the dual GPU card suggested in the OP. A 1.2ghz Tahiti chip would be awesome.
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Yes if is if they are indeed producing a dual gpu card - but speculating that the "7990" will be clocked faster anyway, what stops them producing a faster single gpu card at the same time?
I have never seen AMD make any suggestion, let alone promises that 13.3 will boost performance, unless i miss that? in which case please post a link
I thought I had seen an article that mentioned it, but the only article I can find relating to the memory management changes specifically mentions as a fix for frame latency/micro stutter, which I thought was what they had already fixed in the latest 13.2 betas/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...-radeon-frame-latencies-in-series-of-updates/
No ^^^ i can tell you without even reading that link the memory management thing is specifically for 13.3, 13.2 has fixes for those games affected at this point on a game by game basis, but not the under laying fault, IE: memory management.
That really hurt AMD, both financially and personally, they have stepped that up a hell of a lot.
I would never say never, but i think its probably unlikely that's going to happen again.
Whatever it is they release I hope it doesn't take nearly a year to put proper performance drivers out. Just imagine if the 7 series launched with the 12.11 drivers
That really hurt AMD, both financially and personally, they have stepped that up a hell of a lot.
I would never say never, but i think its probably unlikely that's going to happen again.
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Agreed they've put a huge effort into improving their driver sector and if they keep it up I'll move back to team red
Whatever it is they release I hope it doesn't take nearly a year to put proper performance drivers out.
I know, my reply wasn't aimed at you
With it and the next generation of AMD cards being based on GCN, it won't take then nearly as long to pull the performance out of the chips.
nVidia's next generation of chips will likely be the same story as early GCN as far as early performance from drivers goes because it's a new architecture for nVidia whereas Kepler is basically a die shrunk doubled up Fermi with FP64 bits chopped out to streamline it for gaming GPUs.
Nvidia did a good job on getting the Drivers right early on, its why they beat AMD so convincingly as soon as the GTX 680 arrived, the performance on Nvidia GPU's has hardly changed since release compared with AMD because AMD got it so wrong early on.
Hell they are still ironing out some kinks now.
Hell they are still ironing out some kinks now.
Not really. Kepler wasn't much of a change over Fermi so they knew what they were doing from day one with drivers and performance.
GCN was a new architecture, thus takes time to get the performance worked out.
It's not about them getting it so wrong at all, this is what happens with new architectures and will happen with nVidia when they introduce a new architecture with Maxwell, it'll take them time to get their cards working at peak efficiency.
It's the way it's always been.
Semi-official confirmation that Codename is not necessarily linked to generation, so we may indeed see a "Sea Islands" GPU released, slotting into the 7xxx series.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=59176&page=173
EDIT: Also I would be prepared to Speculate that if this is the case - it could easily be called the 7990, in a similar fashion to the 4870->4890 refresh part. 7990 officially does not exist - only as cards dreamt up by board manufacturers.
Unlikely that it would be called 7971 or 7975... more chance of it being the 7970WTFPWN-XTXXXXX Edition
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It may even make sense, if they sneak it in like this under the 7990 name they can see how it performs and fine tune it before the big "here is our new GPU line, meet the HD 8000 series" showdown and it will be functioning as it should on day one.
7990 already exists;
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=938
So they'd have to call it something else, unless that's not an official name for those cards and Asus and OcUK have called them that themselves!
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=56&subid=938
So they'd have to call it something else, unless that's not an official name for those cards and Asus and OcUK have called them that themselves!
You answer your own question.
ROG ARES II: dual HD 7970 GPUs
There is no such thing as an official 7990, yet.
Please read and take in my posts on this. Day one performance is largely dependent on whether it's a new architecture or not.
New architecture always equals some big performance gains over day one/release performance.
Whereas a revision means that they know how to get the performance out of a chip better that time around.
It always happens like this.
I did read and take in your post, i just have no response for it
'IF' and it may be a big IF, the 7990 has two HD 8000 series glued to the PCB it may well be a little different to the HD 7000, which may or may not require some tweaking once off the test bench and out here in the real world, this may well be AMD's thinking. And its simply a prudent measure as well as give nice performance, better than if it were a normal 7970 doubled up, it may not even be a fully fledged HD 8000, but parts of it, etc....
PS: people, please don't take my completely out of thin air speculations as reasons to get your hopes up, Chinese whispers and all that, its just an idea
They would have to be pretty confident to release it as a 7990 - I would assume therefore that if it is Sea Islands Based, then it is nothing more than a small evolutionary step from Southern Islands, and that they have enough confidence in their current drivers working acceptably with it.
Releasing a completely new architecture tends at the high end is risky - you need guaranteed performance to take titles of fastest GPU, you cannot sell a performance chip on performance you expect to gain through driver improvements.
You answer your own question.
ROG ARES II: dual HD 7970 GPUs
There is no such thing as an official 7990, yet.
Official or not, all of the companies making them have called them 7990 so I doubt that AMD would release another different card called that.
That OcUK 7990 looks really good value now against Titan, AresII and the 690. All the reviews had them running at 1125Mhz without any voltage adjustment. Anyone know if they have voltage control unlockable with Afterburner? I quite fancy one, it'd be easier for me than adding another 7970, shame there's no blocks in stock though.
If I was you wolvers I'd wait and see what comes of this new dual GPU. The 7990's will continue to drop in price over the next few months anyway, or at least be on special offer at some point. You'd regret it if this new card comes out in a few months time with better performance at around the same cost.
+1, this is no longer just 3'rd parties gluing 2 7970's together, which is what the AresII is.
For better or worse this is now AMD specifically designing a dual GPU specifically for that job.
Just wait, it might actually be quite good.
