Upgrade Advice from Asus GTX 680 2GB TOP - Titan or 690?

[mkelbie]

I when I say the 690 is a fail, I mean in surround gaming! its going to be a long long time before 1080p requires more than 2GB and I am sure a 690 will be long term investment for the owners

 

[Duke_]

No a 690 won't max out 5760*1080 even in BF3 never mind BF4. You're limited by GPU grunt... so you have low FPS as opposed to hitting the VRAM wall.

There's not much point watercooling the 690 IMO. You're paying for the aesthetics. May as well get SLI 680s if that's your plan as they will be a touch faster as well.

Sorry, not read the whole thread: is there any reason you aren't considering AMD? Especially with water cooling as the AMD cards can fly under water with the unlocked voltage.

Reason being:

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(my own benches so not biased at all)

Good numbers but it doesn't show the whole picture including frame latencies and microstutter. Before I decided on going down the Nvidia route I was going to get a pair of 7950s... That said I've never seen a pair in action and I'm sure they're better than my current card for higher resolutions.

 

[V3teran]

I when I say the 690 is a fail, I mean in surround gaming! its going to be a long long time before 1080p requires more than 2GB and I am sure a 690 will be long term investment for the owners

Im using downsampling in 99% of my games with 2xMSAA+2xSGSSAA.
I now game at a resolution of 2880*1800 and the VRAM goes no higher than 1400MB on most games so the VRAM limit is ok on the 690 unless your using multiple screens.

People go on about this VRAM being hit very early on well i can tell you its harder to hit than you think tbh.

If anything the 1215mhz (overclocked) on the cores needs to be higher and not the VRAM because this is where it counts.

People sprouting on about 1000mhz on the Titan?

So what......

1000mhz isnt a lot even 1100 isnt a lot and remember the reviewers will have better cherry picked cards than what you may recieve, happens all the time in reviews.

Tbh for a card of this calibre the clocks shoulda been 1350mhz+

 

[Rusty0611]

Good numbers but it doesn't show the whole picture including frame latencies and microstutter. Before I decided on going down the Nvidia route I was going to get a pair of 7950s... That said I've never seen a pair in action and I'm sure they're better than my current card for higher resolutions.

I had problems with neither frame latencies or microstutter. At the time I commented that the AMD set up felt slightly less smooth in certain games but not enough to make me drop the large increase in performance.

Frame latency was the buzz word a month ago but in truth if you can't perceive the difference it's a completely pointless indicator.

 

[mkelbie]

So am I right in saying a Titan will be the best choice for my needs then

 

[TheNameIsJambo]

So am I right in saying a Titan will be the best choice for my needs then

I think The Titan is the best choice for everyone!

I'm buying one because:
1) It's the fastest GPU on the market.
2) It's 40-50% faster than a GTX680.
3) You don't require SLI to run a single-[high-res]-monitor, or even up to 3 monitors at 1080P. [No micro-stutter, or driver issues, or game issues]
4) It's a lot quieter than other solutions.
5) It will allow me to upgrade my monitor(s). Either a large 1440P monitor, or a Dell Ultra Widescreen [or similar] - I'm not a big fan of 3 monitor gaming!
6) It has massive amounts of VRAM [Bring it on PS4].
7) It chews threw everything you can throw at it, and more.
8) It's called TITAN.

Seriously though, I got paid a ton of overtime from Xmas. It's the only real reason I'm getting one. That £800 will be encapsulated by my salary and other savings [saved £700 last month!].

 

[Kaapstad]

I think The Titan is the best choice for everyone!

I'm buying one because:
1) It's the fastest GPU on the market.
2) It's 40-50% faster than a GTX680.
3) You don't require SLI to run a single-[high-res]-monitor, or even up to 3 monitors at 1080P. [No micro-stutter, or driver issues, or game issues]
4) It's a lot quieter than other solutions.
5) It will allow me to upgrade my monitor(s). Either a large 1440P monitor, or a Dell Ultra Widescreen [or similar] - I'm not a big fan of 3 monitor gaming!
6) It has massive amounts of VRAM [Bring it on PS4].
7) It chews threw everything you can throw at it, and more.
8) It's called TITAN.

Seriously though, I got paid a ton of overtime from Xmas. It's the only real reason I'm getting one. That £800 will be encapsulated by my salary and other savings [saved £700 last month!].

You would be better off with a GTX 690

More performance
No microstutter
In its element @1440p
Looks even sexier than a Titan

 

[TheNameIsJambo]

You would be better off with a GTX 690

More performance
No microstutter
In its element @1440p
Looks even sexier than a Titan

The cooler does look sweeeet on the 690. nVidia stepped up and claimed it was too expensive, and have put a cheaper one on the Titan [Magnesium alloy vs Aluminium]

I was hoping the Titan would be using the 690 cooler, as it has a real fan on it - And considering it's hugely bloated price tag to boot, why not make the damn case out of magnesium?!

As a side note - I do believe that the 690 needed the axial fan to throw air everywhere, to cool the two chips down though; and was throwing the hot air into the case. Whereas the Titan is able to use one of those little centrifugal fans, blowing in exhaust form.

I'm not a huge fan of nVidia's baby-fin fans though. They've been using them for years, and well.. I still can't understand why. Big axial fans usually get far superior results.

 

[YOLOSWAG27]

get the titan!

 

[TheNameIsJambo]

get the titan!

Who hasn't?

 

[kinoblemeister]

From what I have read, the GTX690 still beats the Titan in most benchmarks...some by a healthy margin.

However for me it would depend on whether I wanted sli or a single GPU card. The Titan is a beast but considering it is more than the 690 by a considerable amount I personally think I would go for a 690.

But the compute for perfomance of the Titan is much higher I believe, so if gaming isnt your primary concern and 3d design or CAD is then the Titan might be a better choice.....

Either way, they're both not bad cards

 

[Gripen90]

For the price of one Titan I think you almost can get 3x GTX 670 2GB ?.

Could be an option if you have the motherboard, space and the PSU for it

 

[mkelbie]

I am not getting a 670 or a 680 again. Definitely either a titan or 690 but I just can't make my mind up. I have to RMA my memory on my PC and I have probably missed out on the 1st batch of pre orders so think I will wait for more feedback on the titan.

Or I may just pre order a PS4 cause that's faster than a Titan and 690 soldered together....

 

[Gripen90]

I am not getting a 670 or a 680 again. Definitely either a titan or 690 but I just can't make my mind up. I have to RMA my memory on my PC and I have probably missed out on the 1st batch of pre orders so think I will wait for more feedback on the titan.

Or I may just pre order a PS4 cause that's faster than a Titan and 690 soldered together....

How will you enable super sampling, multi sampling or down sampling on that console to get rid of the jaggies ? Will that joypad make your aiming more precise ?

 

[chipachap]

I am not getting a 670 or a 680 again. Definitely either a titan or 690 but I just can't make my mind up. I have to RMA my memory on my PC and I have probably missed out on the 1st batch of pre orders so think I will wait for more feedback on the titan.

Or I may just pre order a PS4 cause that's faster than a Titan and 690 soldered together....

Lol, no it's not. Not even close to a 690. Maybe for a year or two it would be more feasible to get the PS4 over a decent PC. But after that year (or two) it falls behind PC's again.

 

[LtMatt]

How will you enable super sampling, multi sampling or down sampling on that console to get rid of the jaggies ? Will that joypad make your aiming more precise ?

Lol, no it's not. Not even close to a 690. Maybe for a year or two it would be more feasible to get the PS4 over a decent PC. But after that year (or two) it falls behind PC's again.

I can't believe you both took the bait Lol.

 

[mkelbie]

I can't believe you both took the bait Lol.

Neither can I

 

[Parabellum]

I’m an Nvidia fan boy always have been but £850ish for a single GPU is just plain mad... Why I hear you ask... well in 6 to 8 months Nvidia will have a new GPU out "I don’t know call it a Titan + Boosted edition or a 780/790" clocked @ 1.4 GHz & running 4GB of vram for £500. Personally I think Nvidia screwed over everyone who bought a 680 mid ranged GPU and for that reason I would not buy into an over rated... over priced... Single GPU from the green team @ a hefty £850.

If you can wait... If you can’t then may you could consider MSI HD 7970 Lightning BOOSTED Edition 3072MB.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-181-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=

 

[Rusty0611]

I can't believe you both took the bait Lol.

+1

 

[Gregster]

I’m an Nvidia fan boy always have been but £850ish for a single GPU is just plain mad... Why I hear you ask... well in 6 to 8 months Nvidia will have a new GPU out "I don’t know call it a Titan + Boosted edition or a 780/790" clocked @ 1.4 GHz & running 4GB of vram for £500. Personally I think Nvidia screwed over everyone who bought a 680 mid ranged GPU and for that reason I would not buy into an over rated... over priced... Single GPU from the green team @ a hefty £850.

If you can wait... If you can’t then may you could consider MSI HD 7970 Lightning BOOSTED Edition 3072MB.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-181-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=

But that boosted edition card could be bought for £340 around a month or 6 weeks ago. Something up with a £130 price hike.