I'm using a MSI Mpower Z77.....It does seem very weird, I don't know really what to suggest.
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I'm using a MSI Mpower Z77.....It does seem very weird, I don't know really what to suggest.
Not as terrible as Nvidia drivers though. I had a friend who left Nvidia because he had nothing but problems with them. He swapped out a 670 for a 7970 and has not looked back since.
Seriously guys! MOOGLEYS is having problems and you need to make it into a AMD Vs Nvidia war
This isn't Moogleys thread Greg.
Also we're not having a war i was just responding to the OP's claims, free speech and all. 
Each to their own, I will use whatever GPU suits my system the best, offers the better reliability and ease of use and is the most stable...whether that is nVidia or AMD I don't particularly care, I had a lot of hassle with the 7950s so replaced them, the issues were related to the drivers not working correctly and even simple things like video playback was a rigmarole compared to the nVidia cards...I am not interested in some adolescent fanboi nonsense. My experience has been negative (as it was when I bought a 4890 over a GTX285..I ended up buying a GTX285 then as well...I don't learn, it seems) with AMD recently and that is pretty much about it, whether yours is positive or not is immaterial. Brand loyalty simply for the sake of it is pretty daft in my opinion, if in future AMD come out with something better then I will consider buying one, just as I did with the 7950s.
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This isn't Moogleys thread Greg.
No, it is my thread, and Greg is right. leave the fanboi junk for the youth club....
I only said something similar to what you said after you responded to my joke comment to Moogleys. Perhaps you need to follow your own advice as well. I don't see anything wrong with polite discussion as long as its relevant and seeing as you quoted me with what you said, i think its relevant.
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everyone's personal experience with various brands will differ, can we just leave it at that and get back to a sensible discussion about helping someone with a specific issue... no one was arguing about drivers until you started on it matt, you popped in with a snide comment for no reason and now you're about to ruin a perfectly decent thread by turning it into a brand war
It was a little bit of banter directed at Moogley's that's all, not at any one else. I didn't say anything about drivers other than amd's initially to which the op quoted me and brought me into the discussion.
It works........
I have no idea what I have done other than a fresh install of windows 8 but it's working again. Not a clue what has been going on there must have been something driver based or something windows installs I have no idea but right now it's working perfect.
Only downside is everything is installed on my spare SSD. I'm going to clone this working install to my main SSD and then slowly install all of my other devices and software and hope it carries on working.
I still cannot understand how it worked perfect for a couple of days and then just died, But it must be something driver or software related maybe something windows installs tbh I have no idea at all.
Not looking forward to reactivating all my games again and seeing how many have exceeded license limits after last time but I'm just happy it is working now. Just hoping it stays working...
I have no idea what I have done other than a fresh install of windows 8 but it's working again. Not a clue what has been going on there must have been something driver based or something windows installs I have no idea but right now it's working perfect.
Only downside is everything is installed on my spare SSD. I'm going to clone this working install to my main SSD and then slowly install all of my other devices and software and hope it carries on working.
I still cannot understand how it worked perfect for a couple of days and then just died, But it must be something driver or software related maybe something windows installs tbh I have no idea at all.
Not looking forward to reactivating all my games again and seeing how many have exceeded license limits after last time but I'm just happy it is working now. Just hoping it stays working...
I need not take my own advice as I made no comment that was not true or based on any inherent brand loyalty...I simply pointed out that the drivers were terrible and that the snide "joke" you made had some factual basis. You bought the subject up, even though in my OP it was specifically asked not to...
Thanks.
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Good stuff. Sounds like one of those mystery issues that we all get from time to time.
Have you read this thread?
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18492164
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@MOOGLEYS, nightmare scenario trying to trace the underlying fault, but you got there in the end buddy.
That's just a few times, you said more, which is your perogative, but in fairness in regards to your AMD problems, you were running two 7950's, whereas you are only running one 680=zero dual card grief.
Your problems could have been from using two cards instead of one, give it a fair comparison before dismissing one vendor.
I don't have a clue how your multi card skills are, but multi card setups are a totaly different ball game.
You don't want to go SLi, you are very happy with Nvidia drivers and dual cards wouldn't spoil that opinion, or would they?
Lol, it's not a mystery problem, it was a driver problem, it happens, AMD have driver problems, but Nvidia have mystery issues, I like that, new way to put it and tells a story for everyone to see.
I have lost count over the amount of times we have been informed of your negative AMD experience, then when matt mentions a swap from AMD to Nvidia he gets called a fanboi?
No one was arguing about drivers but there has been a considerable amount of dissing by the op.
I've followed the thread and not replied leaving it be, but when someone has a differing view they are jumped on?
As matt pointed out, there is migrations to either vendor either way due to problems, no point jumping down his throat for voicing an opinion guys, I'm only surprised no one else mentioned it before matt.
That's just a few times, you said more, which is your perogative, but in fairness in regards to your AMD problems, you were running two 7950's, whereas you are only running one 680=zero dual card grief.
Your problems could have been from using two cards instead of one, give it a fair comparison before dismissing one vendor.
I don't have a clue how your multi card skills are, but multi card setups are a totaly different ball game.
You don't want to go SLi, you are very happy with Nvidia drivers and dual cards wouldn't spoil that opinion, or would they?
Lol, it's not a mystery problem, it was a driver problem, it happens, AMD have driver problems, but Nvidia have mystery issues, I like that, new way to put it and tells a story for everyone to see.
I have lost count over the amount of times we have been informed of your negative AMD experience, then when matt mentions a swap from AMD to Nvidia he gets called a fanboi?
No one was arguing about drivers but there has been a considerable amount of dissing by the op.
I've followed the thread and not replied leaving it be, but when someone has a differing view they are jumped on?
As matt pointed out, there is migrations to either vendor either way due to problems, no point jumping down his throat for voicing an opinion guys, I'm only surprised no one else mentioned it before matt.
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Glad to hear. Must have been a driver conflict somewhere. Hopefully it doesn't start happening again as it sounds like you have a good clocking 680 there.
I wasn't addressing you though, hence i didn't quote you. I didn't bring anything up like that with you as you said not to in the OP. However if you then quote me stating opinion as fact then am i not allowed to respond?
Just because you say the drivers are terrible doesn't make it true. Nothing wrong with stating opinions but there is when one persons opinion suddenly becomes fact as you're trying to describe it.
Moogleys, nightmare scenario trying to trace the underlying fault, but you get there in the end buddy.
That's just a few times, you said more, which is your perogative, but in fairness in regards to your AMD problems, you were running two 7950's, whereas you are only running one 680=zero dual card grief.
Your problems could have been from using two cards instead of one, give it a fair comparison before dismissing one vendor.
I don't have a clue how your multi card skills are, but multi card setups are a totaly different ball game.
You don't want to go SLi, you are very happy with Nvidia drivers and dual cards wouldn't spoil that opinion, or would they?
Lol, it's not a mystery problem, it was a driver problem, it happens, AMD have driver problems, but Nvidia have mystery issues, I like that, new way to put it and tells a story for everyone to see.
I have lost count over the amount of times we have been informed of your negative AMD experience, then when matt mentions a swap from AMD to Nvidia he gets called a fanboi?
No one was arguing about drivers but there has been a considerable amount of dissing by the op.
I've followed the thread and not said much, but when someone has a differing view they are jumped on?
As matt pointed out, there is migrations to either vendor either way due to problems, no point jumping down his throat for voicing an opinion guys, I'm only surprised no one else mentioned it before matt.
Thanks Tommy.
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Lol, it's not a mystery problem, it was a driver problem, it happens, AMD have driver problems, but Nvidia have mystery issues, I like that, new way to put it and tells a story for everyone to see.
No, it was a mystery problem which was fixed by a reinstall of windows... a driver problem would be where the drivers themselves are actually causing a problem and it needs a driver update from the manufacturer to fix the problem
nvm, I give up
but you carry on tommy, you usually do
This is interesting as I have this listed on my original install. The only thing I have done different this time is using a clean unused SSD.
I will try and remove it and see what happens.
Yet you thought it necessary to make some comment even though the OP expressly stated the thread wasn't about nVidia v AMD.
Of course it makes it true from my perspective, they were terrible as they caused me no end of issue that I have not had with the nVidia ones....unless you are now calling me a liar. I didn't say the nVidia ones were perfect either however. Of course you can rant on about how great they are, but this is not the thread for it and neither was your initial comment which was unnecessary, unhelpful and ignored a specific request in the OP.
So if you wouldn't mind dropping the issue I would appreciate it.
There we go I think this was the problem all along same as the thread you linked Castiel. Funnily enough I have removed the offending program and now everything seems to be back to normal and working on my original install.
It seems this was a trojan and nothing to do with drivers.
It seems this was a trojan and nothing to do with drivers.
I had issues with one and two cards.....and the reason I wanted to change was specific to the issue I was having...It isn't a defensive or attack position, it is simply personal preference and I didn't want a range of people telling me that this AMD card is better than this nVidia card as these threads generally seem to disintegate into...
for crying out loud, they are only Graphics Cards.
As I said, the issues were not only with crossfire, but also with a single card, granted some issues were due to scaling etc...but then that is why I also said I was not interested in SLI as I recognised this and was not attributing it to a specific vendor....I it were limited to dual cards I would have considered a 7970 instead.
You lost count after two mentions of why I wanted to change and why I didn't want multiple cards....ok!!!!
I would refer to to the request in the OP. I am not here to defend my choice to move from one brand to another, simply explaining why I wanted to change and if we could keep the recommendations to nVidia...surely that is not such a difficult request to adhere to, it is only a GPU after all, and "dissing"...really????
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There we go I think this was the problem all along same as the thread you linked Castiel. Funnily enough I have removed the offending program and now everything seems to be back to normal and working on my original install.
It seems this was a trojan and nothing to do with drivers.
Glad it is sorted...I am going to check my system for that as well.