Female Students Facing Sexual Harassment And Groping In University Lad Culture, Says NUS

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A report into lad culture at university has revealed half of students have experienced "prevailing sexism, laddism and a culture of harassment", with some even dropping out as a result.

Sexual harassment and violence were found to be "very much related" to lad culture and included verbal and physical harassment, as well as sexual molestation. The report, published by the National Union of Students (NUS), also found "Groping in nightclubs was viewed by some as part of a ‘normal’ night out."

"Lad mentality" was found to be particularly prevalent in sport, centring around banter which was described as "often sexist, misogynist and homophobic". In sports and other extra-curricular activities, there were reports of sexism transgressing into "sexual harassment and humiliation".

One student, who responded to the NUS survey said: "“It was the rugby night initiation and they stood on either side of the pavement so you had to walk through them, they were creating like a bridge thing with their hands, and they started shouting really loudly, in the main street, ‘U.G.L.Y. – she’s ugly, she’s ugly’ and I was just stood there.

"I was on the phone, I just didn’t expect it, and maybe if I had been dressed like I was today, but I was dressed up, and maybe that’s what they had to do, pick out the girl who was on her own, but there was a whole group of them, of rugby lads shouting it on the main street, and it was mortifying.

"Some of them then saw I was a bit upset or taken aback as I was on the phone and so one of them was like ‘ah it’s just a joke’ and I was like ‘well it’s not a joke, because you just
humiliated me on a night out when there’s loads of students about’… and I was actually quite upset by it because it really caught me off guard and I wasn’t expecting it, I wouldn’t say I get upset very much but I literally ran off… it ruined my night, I went home after that.”

Nights out were described as key spaces which lad culture was evident, with even nightclub promoters engaging in the culture as part of their business model to attract customers.

In a recent interview with The Huffington Post UK, the NUS' women's officer Kelley Temple voiced her concerns about the prominence of lad culture on campus.

"If men can't grope women in clubs, they're more likely to progress onto rape," she was once told by a male student council officer. She blamed universities for not taking sexism seriously enough, adding: "Because of the success of a lot of feminists, it's become a lot acceptable to become openly sexist. But it hasn't disappeared, it hasn't gone away, it just manifests itself so it becomes a lot more covert and it exists under different guises and forms.

"One of those forms is "banter". What that is, when you try and apply humour you can say 'Oh but it's just ironic, I don't really mean this'."

The online magazine UniLad is often used as an example of the often misogynist culture. The student publication was forced to pull an article in 2012, which joked: "If the girl you've taken for a drink... won't 'spread for your head', think about this mathematical statistic: 85% of rape cases go unreported. That seems to be fairly good odds. Uni Lad does not condone rape without saying 'surprise'."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...id=maing-grid7|ukt1|dl1|sec3_lnk2&pLid=161203
 
It's amazing what people will try and justify saying that it was a "joke" or "banter". Neither of them are codewords for acceptable sexism.

Also, someone (I can't remember who) made the very valid point, that we should not be teaching girls not to dress like "*****" to avoid being raped, we should be teaching boys that rape is inherently abhorrent. I think cultures like this just perpetuate potentially quite dangerous stereotypes that do actually hurt people, regardless if they're justified as "jokes".
 
I was front row prop, sounds like my Uni experience down to a Tee.

This is the way the world is.. Its nothing new to anyone that lives on it surely ?
 
It shouldn't be though, so why should we just accept it?

We wont in 50 years but at the moment and the past 4000 years. Men have been men and women have been women.

I don't agree with it.. Being singled out for any reason is horrid, its just pack mentality and Male hormones, Bravado and Stella Artois
 
Ermm, the story they discuss, one girl was called ugly in public by a group of drunk lads?
How is that sexist?
Stupid maybe, embarassing and humiliating yes, but sexist?

Groping, no place for. The rugby thing, not remotely nice, but I can't see that progressing to rape in any society.
 
We wont in 50 years but at the moment and the past 4000 years. Men have been men and women have been women.

I don't agree with it.. Being singled out for any reason is horrid, its just pack mentality and Male hormones, Bravado and Stella Artois

Things only change if people make a stand for it. Surely, by being apathetic about it, you're almost condoning it?
 
It's amazing what people will try and justify saying that it was a "joke" or "banter". Neither of them are codewords for acceptable sexism.

Also, someone (I can't remember who) made the very valid point, that we should not be teaching girls not to dress like "*****" to avoid being raped, we should be teaching boys that rape is inherently abhorrent. I think cultures like this just perpetuate potentially quite dangerous stereotypes that do actually hurt people, regardless if they're justified as "jokes".

I hate the word banter because as it's not nothing but an excuse to be an absolute ****. Actual real jokey banter (the type between you and your mates) is entirely different from doing it to a stranger on the street.

On topic, I saw this type of stuff in school. By the time I hit Uni, I stopped hanging around *********. :)

That said, I read the lads mag quote as a joke. Nobody with the mental capacity to gain entry to University should see it any differently in my opinion.
 

No Normal man would do that, its an insult to men to be honest. I wonder what her real agenda is?

I hate the battle of the sexes, i HATE being branded like this by militant feminists. The same way i hate being branded cos im tall.

Its one hell of a stupid argument and it wont get solved over night.... Jesus women only got the vote 100 years ago... its gonna take at least another 50 -100 for the nonsense to change.

Im all for equal rights, in fact im so for it i don't even consider it, talk about it, kick up a fuss about it i just get on with it.

I think these cases are extremes and far from the norm...

No man complains about being sexually harrased by a group of women..:p
 
The rape joke thing by 'UniLad' is just some immature ****s taking 'banter' way to far in order to try and gain some kudos... its something worthy of complaint though its rather at the extreme end of the scale and hardly representative.

The Rugby thing on the other hand... I'm not sure that is a great example - they happened to pick on a girl who walked through their group... that in itself isn't necessarily 'sexism' and doesn't tell us whether they were they were only chanting at girls or whether they started chanting at anyone walking through... odds on a skinny ginger guy going through the same group moments later and no chanting occurring?
 

Is this actually common?
I thought we were generally backward in Norn Iron but I can say for certain that no sexual harassement goes on within my workplace, none. Perhaps we actually do something right.


As for the 'banter' phrase, you are right it is completely different between mates, and with a stranger. A stranger doesn't know you, so banter with them is impossible.
 
It does make me sick that a whole generation of kids (and some adults...) have grown up saying " i totally raped you" and stuff like that when playing computer games.

Its the one thing that winds me up the most about online gaming, not that i lose much cos im "all pr0" but the use of that word in that context is abhorrent.

off topic but .. god i hate you all :P
 
No Normal man would do that, its an insult to men to be honest. I wonder what her real agenda is?

I hate the battle of the sexes, i HATE being branded like this by militant feminists. The same way i hate being branded cos im tall.

Its one hell of a stupid argument and it wont get solved over night.... Jesus women only got the vote 100 years ago... its gonna take at least another 50 -100 for the nonsense to change.

Im all for equal rights, in fact im so for it i don't even consider it, talk about it, kick up a fuss about it i just get on with it.

I think these cases are extremes and far from the norm...

No man complains about being sexually harrased by a group of women..:p

Many normal men do do some of the stuff she mentioned. The "keep going sexy" or whistling builders, for example. There is a big difference between this and a sexual predator on the tube or lads literally harassing her on the street and whilst I wouldn't do the whistling myself, I'm not entirely sure I agree with them all being part of the same complaint.
 
yeah my point was aimed at the grinding tube man... sorry im tired. Should stop ranting/posting and hit the sack.

yeah again groups of men do "verbally harass women" Its just to prove how alpha you are in the pack and nothing more.

It does irk me this BS stereotype of being a man that im expected to love football, cars and sexually harassing women cos i think with my penis and about sex every 7 seconds???

I think im having a personality crisis, im sure when i check back in this thread toMorrow the 20 year olds will have been here and played "one up me alpha" to prove whos the most sexist and reset all the womens opinions of men back to gutter levels like the Blogger.

Maybe i used to play that game when i was younger and ive finally grown up...
 
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The initialization at my uni for rugby was to stand in a circle naked and drink the other members pee.
I am not surprised that these people get up to these things.
 
I wish women would be more frisky and grope men. It works both ways lol!

It happened to me... my mate and I had a summer job in his dad's office in Birmingham when we were 16... obviously at the age where you usually go and try to get served in the local pub etc... though end up getting ID'd, kicked out and having to get a mate's older brother to buy you alcohol from an off license...
We decided on Friday to go out straight from work in our suits to a club... though still looking massively out of place and blatantly under aged we surprisingly got in without any hassle, got fairly drunk then got set upon by the chavviest group of female office workers imaginable... 'how old are you luv' 'I could be your mum' etc...

....then they started grabbing...... :eek: essentially my mate and I got sexually assaulted on the dancefloor of the 'Dome 2' nightclub by a group of randy dinnerladies...
 
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