you get fats and proteins from a plant based diet so that argument doesnt really hold any weight. The only nutrient you cannot get from a plant based diet is B12 which is fortified in most things now anyway like soya milk, I believe they make it using algae or bacteria.
Anti-cow/herd vegans actively contribute to climate change, lol
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you get fats and proteins from a plant based diet so that argument doesnt really hold any weight. The only nutrient you cannot get from a plant based diet is B12 which is fortified in most things now anyway like soya milk, I believe they make it using algae or bacteria.
as a vegan im pretty offended by this small mindedness, but I didnt expect any less from an OCUK poster. Anyway cows contribute to more Co2 than all the cars in the world. The diary and meat industries are inherently cruel to animals, they cant be any other way due to the amount of meat they need to produce and the impact on their own profits.
Diary cows are pumped full of hormones as are beef cattle, so you enjoy your daily dose of hormones from another species and I will enjoy my plant based diet. If the OP was going to post about this, perhaps lay off the stupid confrontational BS you child!
oh and biohazard just handed you, your ass on a plate lol
As a Vegan, you should have much thicker skin than you seem to have.
oh im used to moronic meat eaters
Because Vegans can't be morons?
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That's fair enough, and true, however, not in the same concentrations, and you'd need to eat a lot more to get the right quantities.
I have no issues with people choosing to follow a lifestyle - it shows good commitment, and often the good ones know a lot more about diets than most people.
However, what I will say, that I respect your choice, eating meat is perfectly natural - and easier to get the nutritional balance and range of nutrients.
I don't like manufactured or processed foods, things like soya for me is out of the question. I try and follow a more Palaeolithic-style diet (not that strict, but as strict as possible, and am anal about not eating sugar or processed/refined foods).
Back to the topic, people ought to eat less red meat, and eat more fish. Not cut out red meat, but just eat a more balanced diet.
as a vegan im pretty offended by this small mindedness,
That's fair enough, but:
I'd say that is a bit small minded
Good points. I will enjoy my tasty steak thanks
Again, fair enough, but:
Isn't that confrontational?
Practice what you preach
And to add to the list, I'd say that's rather childish
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Logically having more herd animals isn't a problem for vegetarians or vegans, their issue would more typically be with people killing and eating them. Your argument appears to be as follows - vegans don't want cows to be killed and eaten therefore they also don't want cows to live. Put bluntly you're presenting a false dichotomy.
You could increase the number of herd animals and have the "natural" predators (not humans for the sake of argument) preying on them and that would do the same job. Now, of course, you've got issues with the number of people in the World increasing and the need to feed them but what is presented there is a solution to desertification which has the convenient side effect of addressing food shortages but ultimately the increasing population might well test even this solution. I suppose the simple point is that humans are the problem here although we're almost endlessly inventive in our ways to screw up. We might be able to find a solution to keep things going as they are but are we really addressing the cause of the problem or masking it in ever more sophisticated ways?
If people want to eat meat then fine, I've got no real issues with that but like everything else in the foodchain it would be nice if there was as little suffering as possible in doing so.
Not all vegetarians are like hippy PETA/climate change activists you know. Calling every single vegan/vegetarian "wishy washy types" is like me saying all meat eaters are fat and ugly and don't care about the environment. I'm sure there's plenty of meat eaters out there who really care about the environment and similarly there'll be lots of vegans and veggies that don't.
Just bring on the vat grown meat product is all I say (may be some time yet, but the technology will get there), no brain, no conciousness - ergo no suffering - just massive slabs of awesome artificially grown meat.
That way we can all chow down on grade A quality fillet steak without having to think about the animals which died to make it.
That way we can all chow down on grade A quality fillet steak without having to think about the animals which died to make it.
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No, but I am basing my opinion off of my own experiences. Its the smug, Prius buying San Franciscan who thinks they are saving the world, attitude i don't like. Actually, you have just bought an expensive piece of marketing.
I have to say that in my (very limited) experience in dealing with vegans/vegetarians has taught me that most Vegans think of themselves as superior from following an alternative diet.
At the end of the day I feel that we benefit most from a balanced diet including meat and veg. In the interest of full disclosure I am a beef and lamb farmer however so that will admittedly cloud my opinions.
At the end of the day I feel that we benefit most from a balanced diet including meat and veg. In the interest of full disclosure I am a beef and lamb farmer however so that will admittedly cloud my opinions.
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They have been banned since 1989.
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Nothing wrong with being vegeterian at all.
The people scoffing insults are really the ones who are ignorant of pretty much how the world works.
Notice how the vegetarians are usually the smart people, and the meat eaters who attack them with such venom are usually thick as ****.
Says it all really.
The people scoffing insults are really the ones who are ignorant of pretty much how the world works.
Notice how the vegetarians are usually the smart people, and the meat eaters who attack them with such venom are usually thick as ****.
Says it all really.
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What about all the other chemicals in their feed, the chemicals in the ground, and the chemicals leeched from the plastic packaging that the meat is packed in?
Oh, it seems none of that matters right?
as a vegan im pretty offended by this small mindedness, but I didnt expect any less from an OCUK poster. Anyway cows contribute to more Co2 than all the cars in the world. The diary and meat industries are inherently cruel to animals, they cant be any other way due to the amount of meat they need to produce and the impact on their own profits.
Diary cows are pumped full of hormones as are beef cattle, so you enjoy your daily dose of hormones from another species and I will enjoy my plant based diet. If the OP was going to post about this, perhaps lay off the stupid confrontational BS you child!
oh and biohazard just handed you, your ass on a plate lol
How do cows manage to produce Cobalt?
Termites produces more greenhouse gasses than all the cows, what are you going to do about that?
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[bgcb]REPO_MAN;23943320 said:
What are you on about? I wasn't expressing an opinion.