Call of Duty ruined a generation of gamers?

ColdAsIce said:
Quake 3 > everything else. Combination of map knowledge, 100% pure aim/freedom of movement and then juggling the timing of items spawning and controlling areas of the map.

Nothing touches Quake 3.
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Indeed - I feel sorry for gamers that havent played Q3 (actually this generation of gamers full stop), not a single FPS made since is as unadulterated. It didnt differentially reward you if you were good or rubbish - it just was you versus your opponents and the game had no real influence on artificially changing that balance or the skill difference - ultimately you had to get better as the game was never going to handhold you...

EDIT: I also dont think FPSes are the only genre that have had this skill reduction through 'randomness' - its pretty much a standard feature of something like FIFA to ensure games are far more balanced than the player skills dictate.

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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ps3ud0 said:
Indeed - I feel sorry for gamers that havent played Q3 (actually this generation of gamers full stop), not a single FPS made since is as unadulterated. It didnt differentially reward you if you were good or rubbish - it just was you versus your opponents and the game had no real influence on artificially changing that balance or the skill difference - ultimately you had to get better as the game was never going to handhold you...

EDIT: I also dont think FPSes are the only genre that have had this skill reduction through 'randomness' - its pretty much a standard feature of something like FIFA to ensure games are far more balanced than the player skills dictate.

ps3ud0 :cool:
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I think the original UT99 was better in that the weapons were more memorable and versatile, also the double tap dodge allowed for more tactical play wheres in q3 you could only jump but not shoot dodge.

Nothing beats a monster kill hehe
 
~>Dg<~ said:
spud are you talking after cod 4 as in " there is sod all skill and effort involved in playing it and it's just a good laugh, "

are you playing compwise as in promod ? or you talking about general public run and gun ? its vastly different skillwise. any low to med players can do okay or come top in many public servers but in smaller higher skilled like promod for eg if you are not say med plus or above you go home with minus score every round.

this is similar in many fps games.

anyone can run round in a big tdm or conquest in bf3 for eg do pretty well but in say a small game of higher skilled players its totally different again.

do like quake though :p arma is no harder than playing a normal comp game or pub game its just different. its not more skilled.
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Not true, last time i played CoD was promod and i was still doing fine, the game has little to no skill involved anymore, its all about getting your next perk to boost your "killstreak" you have only managed to get by killing a few people. The rest of the kills from your killstreak normally come from your perks, missiles, heli etc...
 
McGray said:
Do you get heli's in Promod?

Lame.
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no you dont get killstreaks in promod :D or helis or anything ! (seems trollbait lol )

thats the whole point there is no killstreaks bs in it you dont need to rank up you get basic guns and its s and d mainly. so it comes down to skill movement and aim.

if its easy come join us on netsky later :)

 
McGray said:
Do you get heli's in Promod?

Lame.
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its optional, i played a couple of matches with it on and off. Regardless of the setting at the time it was just the same old rubbish. Little to no tactics, shocking graphics, easy to play simple minded cod rubbish. I forgot to mention the ****** graphics but thats hardly promods fault :p
 
Frodo1805 said:
Not true, last time i played CoD was promod and i was still doing fine, the game has little to no skill involved anymore, its all about getting your next perk to boost your "killstreak" you have only managed to get by killing a few people. The rest of the kills from your killstreak normally come from your perks, missiles, heli etc...
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haha you on a normal public server which is like playing people who are blind folded this isnt promod :p
 
~>Dg<~ said:
no you dont get killstreaks in promod :D or helis or anything ! (seems trollbait lol )

thats the whole point there is no killstreaks bs in it you dont need to rank up you get basic guns and its s and d mainly. so it comes down to skill movement and aim.

if its easy come join us on netsky later :)

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It is easy, thats the point where all making. Your one argument is going against a whole forum, many of us have played promod you know.

Have played 1.6, CSS for years and suddenly CoD is going to be a struggle. The gameplay is still the same regardless of the game mode.

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haha you on a normal public server which is like playing people who are blind folded this isnt promod :p
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Yes in that particular post i was talking about public servers but Promod isnt that different mate.

More tactical? slightly.
More skilled? slightly.
Enough skilled players to make you sit back and go this is a different game? NO.
 
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Frodo1805 said:
its optional, i played a couple of matches with it on and off. Regardless of the setting at the time it was just the same old rubbish. Little to no tactics, shocking graphics, easy to play simple minded cod rubbish. I forgot to mention the ****** graphics but thats hardly promods fault :p
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come on frodo later lets have a look at yer ;)
 
Frodo1805 said:
It is easy, thats the point where all making. Your one argument is going against a whole forum, many of us have played promod you know.
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well if you played promod then you would know there isnt perks or helis :rolleyes: thats the whole point of promod isnt it to have no perks killstreaks and such. ocuk gets worse everyday lol
 
~>Dg<~ said:
well if you played promod then you would know there isnt perks or helis :rolleyes: thats the whole point of promod isnt it to have no perks killstreaks and such. ocuk gets worse everyday lol
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But it still takes a few bullets to kill which, in any game, adds a massive element of luck (I'm including CS here) and becomes as much about who sees who first as it does player skill. This is even more the case with ironsights which are spammy by nature. Now take something like ET, where you need to land multiple headshots on much faster moving targets to kill, and you see what some of us are getting at.
 
no i do get what you mean its just some were saying promod had this and that in which it doesn't. so it kinda dilutes what i was originally trying to get at in the first place .

which is there are two kinds of cod but most often its labeled as the most common trash newer games. with the mods and promod its a totally different .same as pre cod 4 is to mw3 .

i do love the oldskool shooters and played them for hrs .

i would love to see a ww2 game done with early style twitch shooting good recoil . ill keep dreaming :p
 
The CoD franchise is a cash cow so making the game 'work for everyone' means wods of cash. It's no surprise it's a best seller every year with every rehash. If they made it so any extra effort is require then you're average console player isn't going to buy it. It's primary objective is to take the £30-40 from your wallet which is does ever so well. You can't blame Activision when you've got window lickers wanting more.
 
Efour said:
Ive been buying them freaking cod games since 4 and each one gets progressively worse and what it says in the OP is soooooooooooooo true.
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Just...why? If you can see they're getting worse each time, why do you continue to buy them? You're just feeding the thing thats killing the FPS scene. YOU are the problem with the industry.
 
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