Was Jesus a Demigod?

THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS GODS!!!!!

It's all short stories which were written in a book, the BIBLE and passed on to generations.

There are absolutely NO FACTS to back any of it up at all its ridiculous
 
Kamwah said:
There have been black popes.
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Have there?, with the exception of the current (who can only be called a black pope tenuously because of his being a Jesuit) I have never come across one....There have been a few African Popes but they were all from North Africa and were Roman. Pope Victor I was a Roman born in an African Province, Pope Miltiades was assumed to be a Berber (Zinedine Zidane is a Berber.), Pope St Gelasius was also a Berber. All were from Roman Provinces and none were Black or ever portrayed as Black...St Gelasius was the last of the African Popes and he died in 496AD after only a few years as Pope.
 
doofer said:
Well, we all have to grow up and stop believing in silly fairy tales someday. Some of us, anyway.
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Grown as in the mind?. Has your growing up as you put it enlightened you to the myth of evolution of the universe and life in it from nothing stories too?.

glen8 said:
don't be so silly it's IMPOSSIBLE to become pregnant without having sex.
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Have you heard of IVF (in vitro fertilisation)?. Imperfect man has boundaries and limitations that he can not go beyond, with God there is no such boundaries or limitations. Why should i not believe a God as that mentioned in the Holy Bible could cause such an embryonic miracle?, after all, evolutionists and some atheists will teach anyone that everything came about by nothingness and yet the real science does not support this notion, if this evolutionary event should be real it too was because of a miracle.
 
Castiel said:
Have there?, with the exception of the current (who can only be called a black pope tenuously because of his being a Jesuit) I have never come across one....There have been a few African Popes but they were all from North Africa and were Roman. Pope Victor I was a Roman born in an African Province, Pope Miltiades was assumed to be a Berber (Zinedine Zidane is a Berber.), Pope St Gelasius was also a Berber. All were from Roman Provinces and none were Black or ever portrayed as Black...St Gelasius was the last of the African Popes and he died in 496AD after only a few years as Pope.
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I'm pretty sure there have been actual black popes, I'm unsure though as I steer clear of Catholicism.
 
The current Coptic Pope, Theodoros II, is an Arab. Depending on how you racially classify someone as 'black', perhaps you have an answer there.
 
Naffa said:
The current Coptic Pope, Theodoros II, is an Arab. Depending on how you racially classify someone as 'black', perhaps you have an answer there.
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Two issues, technically the Pope of Alexandra is in fact not Catholic in the context of the Roman Catholic Church, and his ethnicity is not Black, he is Egyptian Copt (as they have all been). As a Copt, he is also part of an ethnoreligious group (much like the Jews) which covers both Catholic and Protestant Coptic minorities. Despite the obvious Ancient Egyptian controversy, Egyptians are not considered 'black' any more than any other ethnic North African, Mediteranean of Middle Eastern ethnicity such as Berber, Arab, and so on is.

The other issue is that Kamwah was referencing Catholicism, which is universally referring to the Roman Catholic Church, rather than the Coptic Church and the context of the thread itself would imply this is the case.
 
Castiel said:
Two issues, technically the Pope of Alexandra is in fact not Catholic in the context of the Roman Catholic Church, and his ethnicity is not Black, he is Egyptian Copt (as they have all been). As a Copt, he is also part of an ethnoreligious group (much like the Jews) which covers both Catholic and Protestant Coptic minorities. Despite the obvious Ancient Egyptian controversy, Egyptians are not considered 'black' any more than any other ethnic North African, Mediteranean of Middle Eastern ethnicity such as Berber, Arab, and so on is.

The other issue is that Kamwah was referencing Catholicism, which is universally referring to the Roman Catholic Church, rather than the Coptic Church and the context of the thread itself would imply this is the case.
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There's no universal definition of race, there are many people with a stronger sense of race purity that would claim he is. Barack Obama is black in the United States, but go down south a bit, and he would fit into at least ten different racial categories.

I just read the the bit where he said he was certain there had been black Popes, Catholic, Coptic, whatever. They're all Popes.
 
Naffa said:
There's no universal definition of race, there are many people with a stronger sense of race purity that would claim he is. Barack Obama is black in the United States, but go down south a bit, and he would fit into at least ten different racial categories.

I just read the the bit where he said he was certain there had been black Popes, Catholic, Coptic, whatever. They're all Popes.
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There are accepted definitions of ethnicity however, and Egyptians, particularly Copts have a definitive ethnicity that is widely accepted. Barak Obama is an African American and therefore commonly referred to as a Black person, in which 'go down south a bit' places would he be considered not black? As a rule social convention generally refers to a Black ethnicity in the context of Africa as being specific to sub-Saharan Africa rather than the various ethnicities in North Africa such as the Berbers, Arabs and so on. (There are also other definitions including Aborigines and others, although I have not come across any anthropological or social acceptance of the term relations to Arabs or Berbers)

And although they are all Popes, they are not all The Pope in the context of this thread as the title Pope simply means Father and it a bit of a stretch to make the argument that answers the question for both the reasons I gave previously.

I also already gave three examples of North Africa Popes of the Catholic Church and how none of them are universally considered to be Black Popes, either by the Church or by commentators. If they were then I am quite sure the Vatican would point to them when being criticised for not having a Black Pope.
 
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