"avatar 2" to be shot in 60fps

NZB said:
I find that with all this higher fps shenanigans it can look great in certain scenes but when watching say just the actors in a room talking it can look... not sure how to put it but not movie like, more like you're watching them on set.
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I completely know what you mean - can't really put my finger on it but I think its because it looks too perfect, too clean and clear cut, we are used to real life being a bit more blurred.

Overall I actually like 60fps tho, on the right setup something like an alien planet can be really brought to life in an almost frightening way.
 
Some of that does look pretty amazing, especially the panning shots. Shame there's no media standards out there for it yet until maybe Redray when it reaches a consumer friendly price.
 
We bought a 3D tv last year. I've yet to be blown away and I now think it's pretty much dead technology.

My lovefilm subscription has given me the chance to watch quite a few 3D films and there is just no point. We had a Samsung active set and returned it for an LG passive. It's much better but the content just isn't there.

99% are artificially converted to 3D, and there's about five or six now I think which have been shot in 3D. Those aren't brilliant either.

Not once have I thought 'I'm so glad we watched the 3D version'. In fact, one of the films we have to watch is Hugo and I actually think I'm going to put the 2D version on instead. This is supposed to be one of the better 3D films, but after watching a few minutes of it it's just like all the others.

I think I actually know what the problem is, and it's not all to do with the technology. If I pick a scene in a 3D film and pause it for a good few seconds it pops out LOADS more and looks really great. The issue I believe it with the human brain. It takes a while to adjust and because the film is running so quickly our brains can't keep up meaning the effect isn't going to be great. You just have to look at the shop demos. Most of the good scenes are slow moving like the pillow feathers. That does look good, but it's slow moving.

If we were buying again we would still go for the same model as it is a really great 2D set. I think most of the good higher end models are 3D anyway even if you don't want 3D.

Like most of the people in this thread, prefer higher frame rates.
 
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I bought a Sony 40HX85 yesterday. It has 3d but I'm really not fussed about any 3d film. Even in cinemas I usually opt for the 2d version as I enjoy it more without having to watch with glasses on and a blurry half 3d image.
 
krooton said:
Plus, if people really want to, 60fps can be scaled down to 24fps, that way purists can still have what they like.
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This wouldn't work, the effect people like about 24fps is born out of being filmed in 24fps and the exposure time each frame receives as a result. Simply downsampling 60fps to 24fps wouldn't be the same at all.
 
Interesting video, to me it looks like a computer game - even the real actors have an uncanny valley computer generated look to them, reminding me of the young Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy. I felt the same when watching The Hobbit in 48fps. I think done right it could improve the spectacle of the film, I'd like to see more of it in the blockbuster type releases.
 
Rroff said:
People don't tend to take in the detail in day to day life the same way they do when watching a scene in a movie, especially if your doing the same thing a lot you tend to filter out a lot of the details.
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Filtering out certain details doesn't mean that we see things blurry, which is what you said. Things we focus on have an immense amount of detail, with things at the periphery of our vision receiving less attention...just like the movies.
 
Kenai said:
This wouldn't work, the effect people like about 24fps is born out of being filmed in 24fps and the exposure time each frame receives as a result. Simply downsampling 60fps to 24fps wouldn't be the same at all.
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Fair enough, 2 cam set up then, 60 and 24 side by side.

We mustn't halt progress just because we don't like change. :p
 
Robbie G said:
Filtering out certain details doesn't mean that we see things blurry, which is what you said. Things we focus on have an immense amount of detail, with things at the periphery of our vision receiving less attention...just like the movies.
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I'm not literally saying we see things blurry in every day life but day to day we rarely focus on things the same way we do when watching a movie.
 
60 fps looks ... weird, It looks like my "200hz" samsung tv which I prommptly turned off the feature to . I think this is a case of more doesnt always mean better.
 
eggcup said:
60 fps looks ... weird, It looks like my "200hz" samsung tv which I prommptly turned off the feature to . I think this is a case of more doesnt always mean better.
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Or perhaps a case of "it takes time to adjust to a change of something that has been the same our entire lives"... :p
 
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