Land / Self Build?

Maccapacca · 20 Mar 2013 at 09:56

Derek W said:
it would be daft to apply for a 5 bedroom glass fronted modern white rendered building.

No it wouldn't, changes to planning policies mean planners (dependent on authority) have an obligation to accept architecturally significant buildings, throw in Code 5 and you could almost guarantee an acceptance.

Wayn0r · 20 Mar 2013 at 10:11

maccapacca said:
Is it infill? green field? brown field? what's the are? is it residential / industrial / green, what's the access like? is there services (gas / power / water / poo out) nearby?

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=53.745107,-2.640372&num=1&t=h&z=18

The above map, should drop a green arrow on the piece of land, it borders the fencing and then goes out in almost a \=/ shape until it covers 1 3rd of an acre.

It has good access to services as I had a payout from the water company for cutting into it without permission!

Nightglow · 20 Mar 2013 at 10:15

Wayn0r said:
Some good ideas, hadn't thought of the possibility of splitting the plot in two, that is interesting.

I known sites with planning permission for three houses which has elapsed, & been refused when reapplied for, but planning permission given when they reduced the site to two houses.

Some people are put off by plots that are small & overcrowded, better to split plot into two & build two good size family houses, & also make use of the attic space in the design.

Derek W · 20 Mar 2013 at 10:30

maccapacca said:
No it wouldn't, changes to planning policies mean planners (dependent on authority) have an obligation to accept architecturally significant buildings, throw in Code 5 and you could almost guarantee an acceptance.

theres a difference between a building of architectural merit compared to simply building a modern style building in a traditional area though. As for the stuff in Code 5, you need to have some form of 'new technologies / sustainability' to get a building to pass a SAPs calculation so its becoming the norm these days. Just be thankful that the improved U-value / SAPs 2013 regulation changes didn't come into effect this year because of the downturn in housing / economy.

Oh and ultimately regardless of the planning guidelines its down to one person's opinion if the building is approved! Some planners can be ok others can be complete *****

Maccapacca · 20 Mar 2013 at 10:46

Wayn0r said:
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=53.745107,-2.640372&num=1&t=h&z=18

The above map, should drop a green arrow on the piece of land, it borders the fencing and then goes out in almost a \=/ shape until it covers 1 3rd of an acre.

It has good access to services as I had a payout from the water company for cutting into it without permission!

To me that's screaming 10 houses, you could approach a developer and let them do all the leg work.

BF-Bert · 20 Mar 2013 at 10:58

maccapacca said:
To me that's screaming 10 houses, you could approach a developer and let them do all the leg work.

10 houses in a third of an acre?

Derek W · 20 Mar 2013 at 10:58

maccapacca said:
To me that's screaming 10 houses, you could approach a developer and let them do all the leg work.

cant see that many once you include access to all the houses. 5 - 7 would probably be more realistic

Wayn0r · 20 Mar 2013 at 10:58

maccapacca said:
To me that's screaming 10 houses, you could approach a developer and let them do all the leg work.

Have you had a look on streetview? Gives you a better impression of the way the land sits.

Derek W · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:00

BF-Bert said:
10 houses in a third of an acre?

in the op he mentions an acre of land, 10 houses at 400sqm = acre

Maccapacca · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:03

BF-Bert said:
10 houses in a third of an acre?

Wayn0r said:
It is just shy of 1 acre

Derek W said:
cant see that many once you include access to all the houses. 5 - 7 would probably be more realistic

10 per acre is general rule of thumb

BF-Bert · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:05

Derek W said:
in the op he mentions an acre of land, 10 houses at 400sqm = acre

He later said it was around a third, or atleast thats how I read it

The way the land lies isn't really good for a development, looks to be on quite a slope.

Maccapacca · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:10

Wayn0r said:
Have you had a look on streetview? Gives you a better impression of the way the land sits.

you might have problems with the planners and ridge height

but nothing is insurmountable.

Odd bit of land but we build on odd bits of land all the time no one thought was worth anything 10 yrs ago. I'd approach a developer as agricultural land what's it worth? £8 - 10k

Wayn0r · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:23

maccapacca said:
you might have problems with the planners and ridge height but nothing is insurmountable.

Odd bit of land but we build on odd bits of land all the time no one thought was worth anything 10 yrs ago. I'd approach a developer as agricultural land what's it worth? £8 - 10k

I envisage cutting into it and having a nice high-ish brick wall

Wayn0r · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:25

Also apologies, it is 1/3rd of an acre not one whole acre, I have the title and details now.

Apparently the planning didnt go through in the past as a former preston north end player complained it would overlook his house (not sure which house) lol.

Derek W · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:36

Wayn0r said:
Also apologies, it is 1/3rd of an acre not one whole acre, I have the title and details now.

Apparently the planning didnt go through in the past as a former preston north end player complained it would overlook his house (not sure which house) lol.

that wont help matters, and the issue will still be there unless some landscaping / re positioning of the house improves the situation.

Wayn0r · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:38

Derek W said:
that wont help matters, and the issue will still be there unless some landscaping / re positioning of the house improves the situation.

The former player no longer lives there, wether that means the new owners will be more or less responsive remains to be seen

Nightglow · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:54

Wayn0r said:
Apparently the planning didnt go through in the past as a former preston north end player complained it would overlook his house (not sure which house) lol.

You can always rotate a house, or the layout to reduce this.

Wayn0r · 20 Mar 2013 at 11:57

What are the laws on hedging/fencing/tree lines? I take it one cant just plant a row of 30 ft trees etc.

Derek W · 20 Mar 2013 at 21:34

you'll (your architect) need to check the planning policies regarding heights of fences / hedging / treelines for your area. Where your entrance to the site will be would more than likely be restricted to a height of 1050 mm for visibility from what will be your driveway.
I know that fences in this area above 1.8m in height require planning permission, not sure if its the same for your area and if this applies to tree heights seeing as they grow!

Wayn0r · 21 Mar 2013 at 11:21

Thanks for all the help guys

Ill let you know how I get on.

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