I figure this is a lot of people's issue. Why should EA take a (reportedly) 30% hit just so you can download through steam?
It's a smart move.
More devs and publishers would do the same if they had the clout EA has.
Origin passes 40million member milestone
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It's a smart move.
More devs and publishers would do the same if they had the clout EA has.
I'd have no problem with Origin if:
a) It was as streamlined and all-round nice to use as Steam.
b) The prices weren't an utter joke, even during "sales".
c) It wasn't forced on you when you buy an EA game (I also hate this about Steam re: HL2).
That's before I even get onto how much EA are ruining gaming in general - I quite frankly don't want to help fund the next generation of moronic console-bred shooters for those who have more feet than brain cells.
a) It was as streamlined and all-round nice to use as Steam.
b) The prices weren't an utter joke, even during "sales".
c) It wasn't forced on you when you buy an EA game (I also hate this about Steam re: HL2).
That's before I even get onto how much EA are ruining gaming in general - I quite frankly don't want to help fund the next generation of moronic console-bred shooters for those who have more feet than brain cells.
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I'm relatively new to pc gaming, but origin seems fine for me. Bit slow to navigate occasionally but there's nothing wrong with it. Aesthetically its better than Steam in my opinion.
I'm assuming people are mad at Origin as it forces them to click on another icon to access their games instead of having them all in Steam.
There's nothing wrong with Origin in my eyes, even when a sale is on I get full download speed from Origin whereas steam crawls to a halt during the Christmas sales. Steam however is much better for everything it has integrated into it with the community and stuff, also the store is much nicer to browse but I'm sure Origin will progress with time it's a fairly new thing compared to Steam.
a) Works fine for me, I open it up, click download then click play when it's done...
b) Not the case for me, £20 for some of the newest games at the moment? I paid £18 for Dead Space 3 and Mass Effect... Not really a Joke, I also bought BF3 premium in an older sale cheaper than anywhere else.
c) I guess this isn't a problem for me as I buy exclusively online anyway.
Yep I think that is the major problem.
It's annoying to have to install two programs and remember two different logins just so I can play a single game.
Doesn't Origin do multi-platform? I.e. You have PS3 and Xbox users stats on the Origin service along with PC for BF3, I'm sure that they have to register on Origin even if they aren't using the actual program.
Steam is just PC.
Edit: You also have to register on Origin for Mobile games too. This is where all the numbers are coming from. 40 million isn't the amount of people using the program on the PC.
Steam is just PC.
Edit: You also have to register on Origin for Mobile games too. This is where all the numbers are coming from. 40 million isn't the amount of people using the program on the PC.
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Makes sense I suppose, we've all become used to having to use a client to access our games. There's also less and less choice when it comes to avoiding these clients now that they've become an essential part of the industry. I'd say it's likely that a large percentage of Origin users are also Steam users and vice versa.
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40 millions suckers and counting lol
Has to be said I can remember people moaning about steam when it first came out, people were not a fan of being diskless
Now I dont even have a drive to use, all my 5.25" bays are full of blue LED 120mm fans
Steam is also on PS3 ? Also I can have a steam account via a web browser and steam mobile chat
Has to be said I can remember people moaning about steam when it first came out, people were not a fan of being diskless
Now I dont even have a drive to use, all my 5.25" bays are full of blue LED 120mm fans
Steam is also on PS3 ? Also I can have a steam account via a web browser and steam mobile chat
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Don't see a problem with origin to be honest, why should EA give Valve 20-30% of the purchase price if they have a perfectly workable digital distribution service themselves. People seem to regard Steam with rose tinted spectacles sometimes. Allowing Steam to become the single digital distribution method for PC games with no competition would be a bad thing.
A. You could argue the same about Internet Explorer 6. It's functional, but who would use it unless forced to? It's slow and horrible to use compared to modern incarnations.
B. Dead Space 3 isn't worth even that.
C. Well yes, but you coould consider EA's behaviour anti-competitive considering Origin is forced on you. As said though, Valve would be guilty of the same but two wrongs do not make a right.
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Valve games are Steam exclusive, EA games are Origin exclusive. The fact that Steam has a Monopoly on digital distribution suggests that they are anti competitive more than Origin. All non EA games bought from other places only seem to activate on Steam from what ive seen (I could be wrong as I mentioned earlier im a bit new to pc gaming) why is there not a choice?
Steam for PS3 has used like 1 game: Portal 2 (Maybe others, unsure, not many in any case).
No-one will make a steam chat account if they don't already own Steam and registering with an EA account is registering with Origin.
If Steam was used more on Consoles for Steam titles (Which may happen if HL3 is ever released) then you'd see a spike in their registered users there too, but I feel people are assuming that the number of "Members" using Origin is the amount of people who actually use the game client on the PC, which isn't the case, it's the amount of people who have registered for an EA account on Xbox, PS3 and mobile phones as well as PC.
Can't say I'm fussed by having to use Origin, if anything I find it quicker than Steam. Guess it's the load steam gets but the store can take forever to open a page.
Plus for us it's better to have competing platforms, keeps the sales coming
I do sometimes loose track of which game is in each client, could do with a game manager that lists them all
Plus for us it's better to have competing platforms, keeps the sales coming
I do sometimes loose track of which game is in each client, could do with a game manager that lists them all
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Well the article said Steam clocked 50m 6 months ago so presumably their userbase is slightly higher now as well.
Personally I don't find it hard to believe since:
-Origin ported over all the EADM users
-EADM used to have decent games completely free which would get users signing up e.g. in 2009/10 you could Mirror's Edge, Dead Space and Mercenaries 2 for free, Burnout Paradise was free etc
-Cokezone vouchers used to be a bit buggy with min spend not working properly so again you could get £9.99 games for free using a £10 voucher - in combination with the above I used to have an account for ages even before I'd actually given them any money
-Even when that was solved cokezone still used to be a reasonable deal i.e. when they had a sale on you could then get another £10 off a £25 spend
-There are some pretty big games that require Origin i.e. BF3, FIFA, ME3 etc
What you have to remember when it comes to user base is that you do NOT need a good service, you do NOT need lots of good games, you do NOT need a good community etc - all you need is one single reason to get users to sign up. So all you need is ONE game that a user wants/needs to have on your service - for me and many others that dates back to when you could get games for free. For others it will down to e.g. BF3.
The concurrent users is a much more meaningful stat (looking at average users, or users logged in the past x days would be nice too) and Steam seems to be far ahead in that department. Personally while I have Origin sometimes I go a few weeks without loading it, especially as some of my Origin games can be launched directly without Origin (Steam 'cheats' by forcing me to have it loaded when playing a Steam game).
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