Farmers, Livestock and snow

Thanks for your response, beyond pointless!



That's not the point here is it. The livestock are in a location not of there choosing and often trapped , so that in the event of freak weather they can not simply move on - as a result farmers should have a duty to protect and keep them safe. Not simply use the excuse of ' It snowed a lot, and I was too busy by my warm fire, to go help them to safety, dig them out of the **** hole they are in'

Do you really think we have cctv and alarms to tell us that there is a drift in field 4 out 30 in over 300 acres land with sheep stuck in a drift during lambing season when farmers are already doing round the clock shifts in the lambing shed. You really are a typical ignorant towny type who I'm guessing complains about the smell of manure and tractors on the road when you drive through the countryside. :rolleyes:
 
You never meet a poor farmer. Nor do you meet one who will say he is happy about anything. Most are marking time until a housing developer, utility or local authority come along looking to use their land. Then they screw them for every penny they can get - costs that have to be passed onto the wider population.
 
You never meet a poor farmer. Nor do you meet one who will say he is happy about anything. Most are marking time until a housing developer, utility or local authority come along looking to use their land. Then they screw them for every penny they can get - costs that have to be passed onto the wider population.

I know plenty of poor farmers.
 
You never meet a poor farmer. Nor do you meet one who will say he is happy about anything. Most are marking time until a housing developer, utility or local authority come along looking to use their land. Then they screw them for every penny they can get - costs that have to be passed onto the wider population.

Then you have not met many. Plenty struggle, day in day out. The bank owns large quantities of their farm. I like how you use the the word "most", there are a lot of tenant farmers in the UK and only the one who own land close to a town have chance of housing development, see farms tend to be in the countryside..

Before you go bleating old sayings

Farming has one of highest suicide rates as a profession in the UK
It is also one of the most dangerous jobs to work in.
 
Do you really think we have cctv and alarms to tell us that there is a drift in field 4 out 30 in over 300 acres land with sheep stuck in a drift during lambing season when farmers are already doing round the clock shifts in the lambing shed. You really are a typical ignorant towny type who I'm guessing complains about the smell of manure and tractors on the road when you drive through the countryside. :rolleyes:

My brother used to live and work on a farm thank you, and I live in an area surrounded by farms but don't let that stop you from having a decent discussion here without getting all emotional.
 
My brother used to live and work on a farm thank you, and I live in an area surrounded by farms but don't let that stop you from having a decent discussion here without getting all emotional.

I find that very unbelievable with your utter ignorance towards farming. You may live next to farms but they would be more lowland arable type farms and not hilly region farms which where worse effected by the snow/snow drifts.
 
Oh noes animals are dying before we can put them to death. It's a **** one for farmers. Best get the lamb in before the inevitable price rises, justified or not.
 
And Farmers clearly have ways of dealing with their problem yet chose not to, complaining that their animals die in weather we get EVERY YEAR when they don't try and do anything to protect them from it doesn't make much sense.

Yeah you are right, we get this amount of snow every year :rolleyes:
 
Yeah you are right, we get this amount of snow every year :rolleyes:

That's exactly the point. Even housed sheep have been affected due to shed roofs collapsing in with the amount of snow on them.

Some farms around here have not even been able to get to the sheep sheds to check on the ewes lambing for 2 days.

The trouble is people tend to think of farms as a farm house and buildings surrounded 360 degrees by land owned by the farmer and thats it, when the reality is that farms are spread out with land and buildings in different areas around the countryside, its 6 miles along small country back road for us to get from where we live to where we have 200 odd ewes lambing, and this is all upland welsh countryside.
 
You never meet a poor farmer. Nor do you meet one who will say he is happy about anything. Most are marking time until a housing developer, utility or local authority come along looking to use their land. Then they screw them for every penny they can get - costs that have to be passed onto the wider population.

You know that suicide in farmers is higher than any other occupation? Mostly it is put down to financial pressure and being too hard nosed to ask for help.

This thread is just ridiculous. Every farmer would love barns for all their livestock, or barns for all their crops so they dont have to sell straight off the field. But it is just not possible as has been stated many times already.
 
Don't see how farmers can complain about losing their livestock when they fail to protect them. We've got all our horses indoors from a 200 acre farm.
 
Don't see how farmers can complain about losing their livestock when they fail to protect them. We've got all our horses indoors from a 200 acre farm.

Where are you based?

How many horses do you have. 200acres isn't that big a area for hill sheep Infact its tiny
 
My father-in-law is an Aberdeen Angus farmer in Norfolk. He farms on leased land spread across Norfolk into Suffolk and also pockets of Cambridge. We are talking about an area of over 100 miles squared.

Are the ignorant amongst us seriously suggesting farmers must build barns they cannot afford on land they do not own in areas of the counties that they seldom visit for a, weather event that happens once every 3 decades?
Are they then suggesting that farmers visit each corner of this land daily to check on the 100, neigh 1000s, of animals that may or may not be roaming in a particular piece of inaccessable land?

Granted, my father-in-law has not been as heavily affected as others have been by the adverse weather, but his example of farming in remote, disperse locations is not unique.

The ignorant amongst us, don't comment on things you know nothing about unless you're trying to learn from those who know about it.
 
Don't see how farmers can complain about losing their livestock when they fail to protect them. We've got all our horses indoors from a 200 acre farm.

more than likely a stud farm with over 12 employees and a stable for each horse :rolleyes:

Yup. 70 Milking cattle at home and a chunk of young stock!

I go off to another farm to work. 100+ Beef cattle and 1400 Pigs.

I know a few of the shropshire yfc lot(rea valley mainly, some clun), my cousin farms in minsterley and the other one next door to acton scott.
 
You never meet a poor farmer. Nor do you meet one who will say he is happy about anything. Most are marking time until a housing developer, utility or local authority come along looking to use their land. Then they screw them for every penny they can get - costs that have to be passed onto the wider population.

You really do remind me of Alan Partridge. Sorry.
 
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