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GTX 670 and 2560x1440

LtMatt said:
We're comparing because of this post which ruffled your feathers Andy.



I think you need to get trusting that Andi fella demanding proof of his claims so you can sleep easy tonight.
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Cmon Matt, you are not so daft as to take that post as the "be all and end all" You quoted him and replied "Good feedback"

A little bit of Team Red coming out of you in that quote and you know it. ;)

Also, Andy never once claimed that the 670 is faster than a 7970 and not sure why it was mentioned that he did? You can clearly see he never said that and it is pretty shambolic to say he did :(
 
LtMatt said:
We're comparing because of this post which ruffled your feathers Andy.
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what I'm getting from this matt is that you like to dish it out but any semblance of sense of humour goes flying out the window when it's aimed back at you ;) :D

I thought we were doing witty banter so I'm kind of surprised you can jokingly throw a youtube clip at me one minute and then basically throw your toys out of the pram and tell me to go talk to someone else a post or two later

also, if you check back, his post I did not reply to, it was your support and defence of it that caused all this in the first place :D

what I posted, jokingly, was that if a 7970 is better than a 670 because of VRAM and bandwidth, then a Titan must be betterererer, it was you who then couldn't drop it and pulled me in to a technical discussion about 670 vs 7970
 
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Gregster said:
Cmon Matt, you are not so daft as to take that post as the "be all and end all" You quoted him and replied "Good feedback"

A little bit of Team Red coming out of you in that quote and you know it. ;)

Also, Andy never once claimed that the 670 is faster than a 7970 and not sure why it was mentioned that he did? You can clearly see he never said that and it is pretty shambolic to say he did :(
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I didn't realise that the only options were a 670 or a titan when i made that quote.

However i still count it as good feedback as he's owned both cards and said the 7970 was faster at 1440p. Benchmarks would also agree with that statement.

Its just my opinion seeing as me saying Good feedback meant i had to explain myself.

andybird123 said:
what I'm getting from this matt is that you like to dish it out but any semblance of sense of humour goes flying out the window when it's aimed back at you ;) :D

I thought we were doing witty banter so I'm kind of surprised you can jokingly throw a youtube clip at me one minute and then basically throw your toys out of the pram and tell me to go talk to someone else a post or two later

also, if you check back, his post I did not reply to, it was your support and defence of it that caused all this in the first place :D

what I posted, jokingly, was that if a 7970 is better than a 670 because of VRAM and bandwidth, then a Titan must be betterererer, it was you who then couldn't drop it and pulled me in to a techincal discussion about how to test that
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I don't mind humour, that's why i posted the youtube clip as banter after you called AMD cards cheap. But you just won't let it go Andy.

I quoted his post and said good feedback as he'd owned both cards. I also made it clear right at the start that i said i wasn't saying that it was faster because of vram yet still you go on and on and on.

I didn't pull you into a technical discussion you told me at great depth why me posting good feedback was such a crime against humanity. Then i was forced into explaining it so i said at a guess he might have meant the wider memory bus. But i specifically said lets wait for him to clarify as he said it. After i said that you went on and have not stopped since.

andybird123 said:
how would he know if the memory bandwidth was giving better results?
he hasn't specified what overclocks he was running on either card and he hasn't specified what games he was playing, what settings, and what FPS results he got on either

he has basically just said that he likes the 7970 more than the 670 and then appended some reasons which bear no relation to what he actually said... memory usage and bandwidth are only relevant if you can quantify why they are giving you an advantage... the 7970 is the "top" single card from AMD's stable, and the 670 is the 2nd or 3rd in Nvidia's depending on your point of view... I would naturally expect it to be as fast or faster based on the specs of the GPU itself... to make claims about it's other attributes you would need to show that you had done some testing that specifically called out the items mentioned and shown that they have an effect

such as, running the 2 cards at 1920x1080 and then again at 2560x1440... showing a bigger disparity at 2560x1440 you could argue that the memory speed, bandwidth or even amount is having an effect (though as we all know, memory amount being an issue usually leads to quite dramatic fall offs in framerate)

just saying "i personally prefer this card of the 2" and then appending some made up reasons for that preference is not good feedback

using the same logic to recommend a 7970 would lead you to recommend a Titan even more
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I posted this as a joke

andybird123 said:
must be great feedback... because a Titan has more VRAM, more transistors and the same basic bandwidth so by this logic the OP should go with Titan...
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and in response I got this;

LtMatt said:
I think he'd be better off with a low profile 5450 personally Andy.

He said it runs better because of the extra bandwidth. I have no reason to doubt what he said. He said the 670 runs 1440p fine but the 7970 runs it better. I see no problem here. I only posted good feedback as he's owned both cards unlike me so i can't comment on the 670 performance. Take the issue up with him plox.

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To clarify, im not saying or thinking that he's saying it runs faster because of 1gb of extra vram. More the fact that 256 bit bus vs 384 bit bus.
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LtMatt said:
There is a possibility i suppose he was using all or most of his 2gb limit at 1440p though its still enough for the majority of titles id imagine. I expect he was talking more about the memory bandwidth as its quite a bit larger on the 7970. Either way lets wait for him to clarify.
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you were the one that decided to "go on" about it, not me... after repeated posts by YOU in support of what you assumed from the other post, I then posted that response you just quoted

selectively quoting me to make me look like I started this, when you had about 4 pops at it before I posted on the subject

you also try to hide behind a veil of "oh I don't really know about this technical stuff" when defending someone's post that you liked... but then go on the attack when someone else posts their opinion on the technical side of the discussion
 
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When you responded with a joke, i did as well. What's wrong with that? :)

The quote you quoted was a response to Greg after he asked me to explain? It was not a response to you at all so ive no idea where you got that from. Greg seemed to understand ok judging by his reply. Anything to keep this going on though hey Andy?


 
LtMatt said:
When you responded with a joke, i did as well. What's wrong with that? :)

The quote you quoted was a response to Greg after he asked me to explain? It was not a response to you at all so ive no idea where you got that from. Greg seemed to understand ok judging by his reply. Anything to keep this going on though hey Andy?
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my point was, you had 6 responses on the subject before I had gotten to my 2nd, yet you make that out that I'm the one "going on"

when you post a joke, I respond in kind, I then get;

LtMatt said:
We're comparing because of this post which ruffled your feathers Andy.

I think you need to get trusting that Andi fella demanding proof of his claims so you can sleep easy tonight.
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you seem to be totally incapable of letting anything go, and normally I wouldn't push it, but I'm actually not going to stop responding until you do :D

you've been trying to end this by making sure you get the last comment in

anyway, back to my original point... a single 7970 can't run 1440p on max settings, neither can a single 670, or 7950... 2 of any of these cards can... so if you want a dual card solution go for either dual 7950 (cheapest) or dual 670 (if you prefer nvidia, which I won't go in to the reasons why you might but there it is)

7970 crossfire really has no benefits over either of these and single 7970 really has no place in this thread at all

or, you know, single Titan, like the OP has already ordered, rendering any subsequent musings on AMD cards totally irrelevant
 
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Must be beaming andy, the op bought a Titan-congrats milano.:)

Chalk one up for Nvidia lads, by god they need it@OcUK with the number of Nvidia users dwindling by the day so we are told due to all the bias in here.:rolleyes:
 
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Thank you Overclockers and DPD.

Shame I have to wait till Thursday to try them out.
 
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