You provide proof that the Sun don't twist quotes to suit the way they want to portray the story to the nation then. It works both ways.
Silly bint gets free boobs on the NHS
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You provide proof that the Sun don't twist quotes to suit the way they want to portray the story to the nation then. It works both ways.
No it doesnt. You were the one to make the original statement, the onus of proof is on you.
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It wasn't a subtle alteration by me of course but to omit words which give context could potentially be quite easy. It might be perfectly fair reporting here but the point I'm making is a more general one which is that to remove context can alter how something appears quite significantly.
You're asking him to prove a negative - what would satisfy you as proof that the Sun (or any newspaper) didn't twist quotes? Proving a positive for something like this should in theory be easier, you just need an original source and then the story that was reported wrongly to compare - to prove the negative would presumably mean being able to compare all stories and show that none of them were altered.
For starters an obvious one where the Sun got it wrong was Hillsborough.
Would it matter to you if you had 0% penile tissue from age 14?
Have people noticed that if a bloke in the Motors forum does something the group considers silly (like buying a French car), then he's just called silly.
If a girl does something silly it's not enough to call her silly, we have to pick on something we think may hurt her and call her ugly as well.
Interesting how misogyny works on mostly male forums.
She isn't actually particulary ugly at all (using the forum's girlfriend thread as a reference here), she has decent eyes and high cheekbones, just really poor makeup. But don't let that stop anyone from jumping on the bandwagon and expressing a bit of female hate.
Exactly,
She met the required criteria to get the surgery - the fact she appears to be a wannabe page 3 model is irrelevant.
It seems you can, as you clearly got the wrong end of the stick as you admitted above.
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I actually have no problem with her having got the surgery. I think depression and 0% breast tissue are both legit reasons.
No, i confused myself and ended up arguing cross purposes. Had nothing to do with any quote.
Aren't The Daily Mail and The Sun well known - infamous even - for twisting the truth? Google this and I'm sure you will be awash with examples.
Isn't that the point though - if this was a depressed girl who was otherwise just normal she wouldn't be getting grief from most people I suspect. It's the fact she has got a boob job on the NHS to get into glamour modelling whilst at the same time made a mess of her own appearance with the over the top make up, fake tan etc. She's a caricature of Jordan, just another example of the depressing celebrity wannabe culture that a lot of people hate.
She's equivalent to the guy that converted a Pug into an appallingly bad fake Ferrari - and he got called a lot worse than silly by the motors crowd.
The greater point is, it's easy for the average idiot to read that article & walk away believe something different to what's actually started (due to the tone of the rest of the content).
The Sun constantly prints deliberately misleading articles in order to increase public support for certain ideological cuts/changes to our welfare state.
We all know why this is being done.
(amusing article) - http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...nd-all-the-money-isnt-it-obvious-8553643.html
"This is mainstream economics, that the poor are richer than the rich. Modern politicians must see a film on Comic Relief about starving children in Somalia and cry: “What a tragedy. Is it any wonder Africa’s in a pickle while the extravagant pigs flaunt their mosquitoes like that?” Then they call the number on the screen and pledge to help out the village by shutting down their well.
It’s an imaginative approach, because less qualified types might imagine the banking crisis may have been caused, in some part, by bankers. But it takes a trained mind to understand that the people who robbed us are the poor. If a government minister stormed into a bank in the middle of an armed robbery, he’d yell: “There are the robbers; those *******s lying on the floor tied up and snivelling that they don’t want to die. And someone help out this man, the poor chap’s trying to carry a sack AND a sawn-off shotgun, he’ll pull a muscle.”
It’s a tricky argument to pull off, that the poor caused the debt so they should pay it back. Maybe that’s why most weeks there are stories in certain newspapers about a woman with 45 kids on benefits, who then bought a giraffe and now that’s on benefits but she said it was cramped so the council has put it up in the Shard, and two of the kids have got Compulsive Potting Disorder so they’ve been given a snooker table but she couldn’t be referee because she’s allergic to white gloves so the mayor has to do it, otherwise he’d be put in jail by Europe.
Then they quietly drop the story when it emerges that the reporter missed out the detail that although it did happen, it was in a dream he had while suffering from food poisoning."
Twisting the truth isnt the issue. The issue in question is whether they outright faked her quote.
Thats fair enough. but i still dont accept that they faked her quote. There also isnt the slightest suggestion that they did except by people who are taking issue with the newspapers. The girl in question certainly hasnt said anything about them being fake quotes...
Thats all im saying here.
£50ish feeds an african for a year. So her boobjob cost about 1½ human lives. Does that put things in perspective for you?
Do you have to be depressed before help is given though? Easy enough to fake if that is the criteria used. Poor makeup is nothing new, just look at Sam Faiers in Only way is Essex, stunning girl, awful makeup.
She met the Medical criteria required for a boob job and I'm not qualified to argue with a Doctor, she just happens to want to be a model and picked big ones as they would probably help - her choice. If she had a boob job but wanted to help rescue abandoned kittens would we be having this conversation?
Besides, people are not directly bemoaning the celeb boob culture (that as men we all had a hand in creating), they are simply posting to say something hateful about her. If she were a poster they would all be banned right now, but she's not so that must be OK. All this is just blatant misogyny, but because we all think the same it is really hard to step back and realise what we are doing. On a 50:50 ratio forum we'd all be ripped apart, people forget that this place isn't 4Chan.
Her boob job did not cost a human life because we choose not to hand out cash to Africans, we choose to help out people in our country by paying taxes.
I've got £50 in my piggy bank that is not going to Africa, do you seriously expect me to feel bad about the life I could have saved? I'm dammed sure you have £50 that isn't going anywhere near Africa too.
Self righteous BS
How many humans did you kill to buy the PC you used to post that?.
You see why this line of argument is stupid?.
That's the point though, she went for it on the NHS (taxpayers money) to further a "career", whilst big boobs aren't required for rescuing kittens.
If it was a bloke who got a penis extension on the NHS to get into porn he would be getting abuse as well. People are too quick to play the sexist card. Her story ultimately is tawdry and a misuse of public health funds.
Not really a fair comparison.
A man without a penis would be more accurate (which I'm sure we could feel bad for him tbh).
And got a massive one to get into porn is the same thing.