NHS wait times?

Can I ask you what your policy covers, and which hospital this is offered at?

I've dug out this years policy, the provider has changed from BUPA to WPA, who now only offer A&E treatment after you've been stabilized.

So it seems this year I am wrong :/
 
its because you now have to wait for all the immigrants get there fix first.

This is quite true. There are a lot of foreigners bolstering the waiting lists these days. Some of them can't even speak English and need to take advantage of the free service. And some of them don't pay tax either.
 
Not all hospitals are the same.

Our local one is known among the staff as being understaffed and over worked. However the OH grandad was in last week and we asked for a drink for him. 30 mins later still no drink so we went to find a nurse AGAIN. 3 Nurses sat at the desk. We asked again for a drink to be told that someone is dealing with it.
After another 10 mins we went back and the nurses wouldn't look at us at first.

One was texting on her phone.

A complaint was made.

I understand when they are busy. But that is near neglect.

Grandad has since passed.(not NHS fault)


However When i went in for my flexi Sig I was treated very well indeed. Its now afterwards that they have cancelled an appointment twice whislt keeping me on some strong steroids that should be reduced after 3 weeks. Its now been 5 weeks and my next appointment isnt until 10th June.

Looks like I'm going to have to my own follow ups. Or risk my non specialist GP changing my meds
 
Mine local NHS hospital is VERY good. Hampstead Royal Free. I was hospitalised with kidney stones last year (against my wishes but they insisted) and the service and care I received couldn't have been better. I went to A&E grey with pain, my first visit to an A&E ever. I was seen immediately and put in a bed and given medication. Doctor came round straight away and I had a CT scan within the hour. It was diagnosed an hour after that and I was seen by a urologist as a precaution (felt the pain in my nuts so thought something was up down there :p) the same day. Before I know it my girlfriend was contacted and I was in a bed on the 11th floor. Very weird day. I stayed the night and was allowed to leave the next day.

Was offered a follow up CT scan a week later but by then I was completely fine and stone free.

Great service all round.
 
@ OP seems reasonable times tbh - A+E is for emergency care priority. Your current problems are inconvenient but not life threatening.

No, they are not.
They are not doing their best, as for some idiotic reason the government still deludes the public into thinking our healthcare system is capable of providing everything possible at every level in superb time with zero cost.

This is my argument against Dolph when he falsely brings ups up the other systems. He is not comparing like with like - we treat far more in this country and those cases are by and large very very expensive.

We need to draw a line, define what is necessary, what is required, and what can be provided, and forgo any new expensive options, unless they prove themselves to be significantly better and worth it.

Which was the purpose of the NHS in the first place and kind of got lost along the way.

The stories of 'little girl can't get the drugs she needs to save her life' and those drugs happen to cost half a million, won't save her like in all likelihood, and are only provided in the US in some research facility, need to stop. I'd rather have 10 extra nurses employed, or 100 extra fracture ops done than fund one expensive treatment that likely won't work, or might extend someone's life a few months.

What I worked on before giving up was prohibitively expensive and was a case like you describe however like with everything we have to solve the problem first and then apply it wholescale. I've guided treatment that was new and expensive numerous times for it now to be cheap and effective and applied in many cases to good effect. Forging new things is never cheap. But I do agree the amount of money we spend on the result of marrying your first cousin is pretty shocking.

The system needs to be clarified so people know that limits exist and can insure themselves against other possibilities.
It was fine I the 40s and 50s and 60s where every doctor could do everything, drugs were simple affairs, with 20 tablets getting a doctor through most of his working life, and surgery involve a knife not a lase, electric, or artificial parts. The world moved on, and the concept and funding system didn't.

Exactly.

There's something new I learned, I thought chicken pox could only be caught once as the varicella variant, and any reactivation was the zoster shingles type effect. No idea you could 'catch' it more than once.

I've had it twice now - go work in paeds you'll find plenty of poor souls in that boat and it is not a nice experience as an adult.
 
A&E you have to be treated or referred on within 4 hours, hospitals dont like breaching this as it effects their funding. You have to blame the government, nursing hours have been cut where I work, its shameful they are expecting 4 nurses to do the job of 6
 
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My policy covers A&E treatment, so I would suggest it wouldnt be to sit behind the Saturday night boozed up detritus that usually is found clogging up A&E.

doubtful it will be more like an out of hours private GP service, it wont cover much more than minor injuries at private emergency care centres, you will end up going NHS for anything that is serious or trauma
 
Sure it's 4 nurses and not 1 nurse and 3 HCA's ...

HCAs are getting cut now, used to be 2 in A&E Majors and 6 nurses, now its 1HCA and 4 Nurses, HCAs are very useful they get people drinks, they do observations, they collect urine and poo, all the stuff the nurses should do but dont have time due to filling in stupid forms
 
HCAs are getting cut now, used to be 2 in A&E Majors and 6 nurses, now its 1HCA and 4 Nurses, HCAs are very useful they get people drinks, they do observations, they collect urine and poo, all the stuff the nurses should do but dont have time due to filling in stupid forms

They are useful however the aren't trained to spot the implications of those obs. I've had the situation where I have had student nurses and HCA's say parameters are within normal limits but they haven't spotted the trend that the BP was rising and the HR and RR dropping and erratic. They didn't put it together. I've had that with nurses too and doctors. One of the worst cases I saw was a post TX that trend was visible and they were being pumped full of 2.5/0.45 and the iStat and labs showed plasma Na of 136 to 140 - it wasn't till we did UriNa which was over 120 that we realised what was going on and slammed in 0.9 sharpish amongst half a bucket of mannitol.
 

So for something you consider to be in serious pain and you didnt go to A&E straight away and waited 2 month to see if it got better?

The GP system is very flawed, if you want to complain about coughs and splutters you're going to have to get in line behind the rest of the hypochondria nation.

If you want to go see a specialist straight away then you will have to pay for it as they will be a waiting list for the NHS based on severity.

KaHn
 
They are useful however the aren't trained to spot the implications of those obs. I've had the situation where I have had student nurses and HCA's say parameters are within normal limits but they haven't spotted the trend that the BP was rising and the HR and RR dropping and erratic. They didn't put it together. I've had that with nurses too and doctors. One of the worst cases I saw was a post TX that trend was visible and they were being pumped full of 2.5/0.45 and the iStat and labs showed plasma Na of 136 to 140 - it wasn't till we did UriNa which was over 120 that we realised what was going on and slammed in 0.9 sharpish amongst half a bucket of mannitol.

HCA training is bad, but generally they should come and tell someone as soon as a patient scores on EWS, its even better now we have VitaPaq so the Ipads and Ipods now flag up obs that are going south, but it always come down to a human and ive seen some pretty bad FY1's lol
 
doubtful it will be more like an out of hours private GP service, it wont cover much more than minor injuries at private emergency care centres, you will end up going NHS for anything that is serious or trauma

Read further down the thread,
 
Quit moaning guys, the NHS are busy doing boob jobs to further aspiring models careers. You will get seen eventually :p.

Only time I have been in A&E in the last ten years - heart palpitations, police called me an ambulance, took 30 minutes to arrive (was looked after by police in the meanwhile and am a low risk priority, so fair enough). Got to A&E, took 10 minutes for admission (was busy), hour to be seen initially, had ECG, x-ray, blood tests. Took about 4 or 5 hours in total. A bit longer than I'd have liked but I wasn't going to keel over and die immediately so I didn't mind, they need to prioritise and the tests took a few hours to be turned around. I think majority of NHS front line do a very good job.

Did you get this sorted? I had a similar experience, but I went to the doctors and then had to make my own way to the hospital. Had the ECG, X-ray and blood tests and then got discharged at like 1am as they didnt find anything wrong. Then had a 24 hour heart monitor as an out patient and they didn't give me any results after that and said they had no record of the test when I phoned them :rolleyes:. So never did find out why I have palpitations.
 
The NHS is something I couldn't live without - having severe Von Willebrand's disease (a form of Haemophilia) I require regular factor VIII injections (the blood clotting factor my body can't make enough of). I get home deliveries of treatment, monthly, to the value of approx £30k...
If I was living somewhere private medical insurance was necessary, the cost would be insane.

The only downside; Hepatitis C from an infected batch of Factor VIII in the early 90's. Thankfully the NHS no longer source blood products from American prisoners...
 
its because you now have to wait for all the immigrants get there fix first.

This is quite true. There are a lot of foreigners bolstering the waiting lists these days. Some of them can't even speak English and need to take advantage of the free service. And some of them don't pay tax either.

If it wasn't for immigrants, we'd be completely lacking in nurses. Ridiculous statements.
 
NHS seems OK to me. Went to Leicester royal when at uni other week due to serious chest pains. Once they saw me they said I looked I'll due to looking grey and I was admitted within 10 mins and hooked up to an ECG.

Turns out I was suffering from stress induced illness that they had no idea what it was. But I was told if the pain was still there after 7 days I should go back to hospital... It was gone within 5 days and only comes back after a few all nighters and buckets of caffeine lol
 
If it wasn't for immigrants, we'd be completely lacking in nurses. Ridiculous statements.

Those immigrants in the main have poorer skills and therefore provide worse care. Maybe the question should be asked why it is not a more attractive profession for native people? The answer is hardly rocket science.
 
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