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AMD say steamroller is right on track.

I didn't know amd were making arm chips under licence. Are they not able to design a reduced instruction set chip of their own? That's probably unfair, but making someone else's design is hardly innovative.

Raw performance would reasonably be measured in floating point operations per second. I.e. gflops.
 
As said, I don't expect (tho would welcome) them really trumping Intel, but to at least provide enough competition to force Intel to put out a mainstream hexacore priced in the range of a 3770k (i.e. a notch above until the former phases out) with HT and a lower-priced non-HT i5 version. Yes, please!
 
JonJ678 said:
I didn't know amd were making arm chips under licence. Are they not able to design a reduced instruction set chip of their own? That's probably unfair, but making someone else's design is hardly innovative.

Raw performance would reasonably be measured in floating point operations per second. I.e. gflops.
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If AMD designs another instruction set, the chances of the market adapting it is pretty low considering how it's dominated by x86 and ARM, and can't really see much profit for AMD from doing that.

Besides, AMD's Opterons are pretty popular in the server space, which makes more profit compared to the mainstream space. As long as they keep improving the power efficiency while keeping up with the high core count, it will be enough to challenge Intel in this part of the market.

Designing ARM CPUs will also allow AMD to enter the mobile space as well, and considering how well their APUs perform, an ARM APU/SoC from AMD should prove to be very interesting if they can get it right. After all, we're reaching to a point where ARM will compete against Intel (ARM A15s compete quite well against Intel Atoms).
 
JonJ678 said:
Really? I can't see the optimism. AMD has been trounced since Intel moved to the core range of processors in 2006. Steamroller will be just as crap as their previous efforts.
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Tbh they don't have to or need to beat AMD in the enthusiast market purely because its so small compared to whats really out there and needed! Mobile market and tablet markets is where the money is at and server/business too.
 
I do hope AMD break the cycle of mediocrity. Intel have been coasting for a while on the C2D and I7 architecture and haven't needed to pull anything special out the bag for a while.

It's hope more than anything else.
 
JonJ678 said:
I didn't know amd were making arm chips under licence. Are they not able to design a reduced instruction set chip of their own? That's probably unfair, but making someone else's design is hardly innovative.

Raw performance would reasonably be measured in floating point operations per second. I.e. gflops.
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I don't think they are doing it under the guise of being innovative. There just doesn't seem to be any point making a new range of CPUs, and spending the R&D money on it when they have a license to produce ARM chips that are already strongly established.

Martini1991 said:
Not that surprising really, Nvidia probably didn't get a look in, lack of X86 CPU's given the new consoles are X86.
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Add that to nVidia's refusal to allow Sony to produce the PS3 graphics core and processor core on the same chip.

AMD offered Sony exactly what they needed, had they went nVidia, nVidia would have had to produce a new GPU specifically for them as their Pitcairn matching performance chips are roughly 30% larger, this more expensive.

I think nVidia's comments on the PS4 show quite strongly that they weren't really considered, at least to a serious degree for the PS4.
 
Its the same story over and over again, AMD get a little momentum going and a bit of hype, and then they destroy our hopes and dreams. Over and over again. Its been like this for the last 2-3 iterations
 
Still think they are spreading themselves too thin.

Intel dominate the server field, should drop Opterons and work on a killer home user platform to compliment their brilliant APU designs.
 
Arthur Hucksake said:
Still think they are spreading themselves too thin.

Intel dominate the server field, should drop Opterons and work on a killer home user platform to compliment their brilliant APU designs.
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I'm not contesting whether Intel dominate the server field as I wouldn’t know, but AMD's cpu design since Bulldozer launched is very much based on a server design, plus some companies only use AMD as it's cheaper I suspect.

Example the company I work for all our servers are AMD based. They wouldn’t consider anything else. AMD and Linux seem to be a better fit than Intel and Linux...
 
spoffle said:
AMD offered Sony exactly what they needed, had they went nVidia, nVidia would have had to produce a new GPU specifically for them as their Pitcairn matching performance chips are roughly 30% larger, this more expensive.
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Completely agree Nvidia are not in the position to build an APU style chip.

But the Nvidia Pitcairn matching performance chip is not 30% larger.

Pitcairn 212mm²

GK106 221mm²

So that is just a smidgen over 4% bigger. :)
 
I Truely hope AMD churn out a decent CPU, Intel need the competition and AMD needs the sales as they have been losing money. If nothing else AMD churn our decent gfx cards.
 
is it just me, or does the speed of an amd processor these days seem to go in reverse correlation to it's namesake, if they keep this up i'll just hang around until they come up with a chip named after the bagger 288. that'll be a chip worth having :P
 
I dont think AMD is stuggling in the server business. Look at Cray who has 2 of the top 5 fastest supercomputers build as of yet. Both housing AMD Opterons. Rest of the 3 are 2 inhouse build chips(IBM/Fujitsu) and 1 Xeon setup.
 
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