Castiel, where have I said I want the murder of others'? I have simply said that those who do wrong should be punished accordingly and not have apologetics such as yourself making excuses for them. And anyway, I'm hardly the only person on this board that has called for the killing of others.
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I wouldn't say it's foolish, because there are really people who believe such things and have that sort of attitude.
Defending the UK?
From what? Are we talking about the same thing? As for calling them murderers, he qualified his post by saying he was talking about civilians. There's been various things coming out about the way soldiers over there have been treating the local people. So Afghanistan wasn't invaded then?
Does this link back to your "defending the UK" thing or something? It should frighten you that there are people who actually have those sort of opinions.
If you were genuinely baiting, fair enough, but I know for sure that there are people who think that way.
They are likely referring to your posts about bringing back the death penalty.
Whilst I strongly disagree with the death penalty, it's hardly the same situation.
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why would the Pakistani government pay for a British army medics medical bills ?
she didn't fight to defend the Pakistani government, she served in Iraq ?
maybe guess that's why the Pakistani government wont pay for her medical costs lolThat's the link I posted. It's comes as no surprise that no one responded and just resorted to personally attacking me.
The above video shows US troops MURDERING Afghan civilians. 'Crew members can later be heard chuckling to the fact that a Bradley (tank) rolled over a dead body.'
So please forgive me for not seeing them vile human beings as 'heroes'. Don't forget the British people never wanted to go to War. We have no right being there.
I think its quite clear that Theophany isn't one of them.
Defending the UK?
While there are civilian casualties in any conflict, that doesn't make ISAF murderers, his qualification notwithstanding, he made sweeping statements that bear little resemblance to the reality on the ground and the actions of the few do not imply the actions of the rest....thus 'Lol Jason2'
So Afghanistan wasn't invaded then?
No, it wasn't, at least not in the way you imply. The ISAF (Allied Forces prior to Dec2001) were operating in support of the recognised Afghan Northern Alliance and to remove the Taliban while dismantling Al Qaeda. (Some degree of diplomatic negotiation was attempted with the Taliban regime initially to remove the safety net they offered Al Qaeda and other groups, but to no avail). This was both in support of stated Allies (Northern Alliance) and in defence of US and European interests (Removing a stable, safe base of operation of a stated anti western militant terrorist organisations).
The current situation is that the ISAF are supporting the legitimate Afghan Govt, they are not occupying or invading Afghanistan.
But they didn't think/know they were civilians...
Yes there are no doubt a handful of extremely bad people in the armed forces but to call them all murderers and other nonsense is utterly stupid and wrong.
I didn't say you were the only one, neither was I specifically referring to your ' accorded punishments'...my lol was for the dappy ill informed sweeping statements you made in this thread.
I am hardly an apologetic either, I am one of those vile murdering cold blooded killers responsible for the deaths of 13,000 Afghani civilians....again, the reason for the 'Lol Jason2', it effectively means I am dismissing your opinion as unworthy of serious remark. If you say something that is worth commenting on seriously (as I have in other threads, giving you the benefit of the doubt on numerous occasions) then I will reply accordingly...your contribution in this thread however is not one of them.
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The reason people have 'attacked' you is because you are essentially claiming every serviceman and woman out there is a cold blooded murderer of civilians. Nobody doubts the video is either fake nor acceptable, but the conclusion you draw from it is comical in it's ridiculousness, to the extreme of being insulting to the intelligence of anybody with two brain cells to rub together.
When faced with no serious point to debate but the crass stupidity of another, rational argument is somewhat redundant, no?
The girl didn't have a choice in getting shot in the head. The woman had a choice when enlisting.
Why did they shoot on the van? Why were they "begging" to engage like it's a game? Human life is human life. You should not find pleasure in taking another life, irrespective of what they have done.
Haha, such a profound comeback, I can't wait to hear Robbo's struggling retort.
I didn't say you were the only one, neither was I specifically referring to your ' accorded punishments'...my lol was for the dappy ill informed sweeping statements you made in this thread.
I am hardly an apologetic either, I am one of those vile murdering cold blooded killers responsible for the deaths of 13,000 Afghani civilians....
So you're currently serving in the army? And anyway, I never said every soldier is a murderer. I just don't support what they are doing. Why do I need to anyway? It just angers me to hear the government (and media) banging on about another soldier killed yet don't mention the numerous Afghan civilians that have been killed. Granted, loss of life is sad reality of war, but this is not war we should be fighting. We shouldn't be there.
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What, like Mark Lackenby..who I recall you said you hoped someone killed (done this ***** on the inside' I think your words were)?
How very ironic that now you say a human life is a human life, irrespective of what they have done!
Well it's not something I would do myself now, is it? But even still, I stand by my original comments. What he did to a defenceless child was cowardly and evil. He deserves exactly the same mercy shown to him. Reap what you soweth!
Also, did you read what I put? I said "you shouldn't find PLEASURE in taking a life".
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Not currently, I wasn't in the Army either, however I was in Afghanistan from the beginning....
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Possibly because you don't understand what they are doing outside of the soundbites on DM sites....
You don't. But criticise in an informed and objective way, not with ill informed sweeping generalisations based on little more than a few nasty individuals who shouldn't be in a uniform to begin with.
Strange, it gets mentioned all the time in the newspapers and media I read...perhaps you need to change your sources of information. It is worth noting that the Taliban and their Allies are actually responsible for over two thirds of the civilian death toll in Afghanistan, you neglected to mention that, or is that not mentioned in the news sources you rely upon to form your opinion.
In your opinion, I disagree, there were valid and good reasons for intervention in Afghanistan, you would do well to research the situation with a little more objectivity and expand your sources somewhat.
I fear it will just be a massive waste of time.
So its ok to advocate the murder of someone as long as you don't have the balls to do it yourself? With one hand you are saying Human life is sacred, no matter what they have done, on the other you are saying an eye for an eye?
You are a confused young man.
So its ok to murder or advocate their murder as long as you don't find pleasure in it? I don't know anyone who has taken pleasure in killing, despite the relief sometimes that they are dead and not you or those you are tasked to protect, which I think you are missing by forming your opinion based on a few illegal actions.
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