North Korea threatens US with a pre-emptive nuclear strike.

So, back on topic.

As abject poverty and a high-toll famine was at it's height in North Korea, the benevolent Russia sold NK hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weaponry. The main reason NK's economic sanctions are in place.

Its not like other country's weren't selling NK weapons too though, hell only 3 or so of NK's 40 MiG-29's came from Russia, however it was admittedly very opportunistic as one of the main reasons for the famine was Russia ceasing to bankroll NK after the fall of the USSR (coincidentally also a reason NK was trying to bolster its weapons as it no longer had the USSR standing behind it).
 
Its not like other country's weren't selling NK weapons too though, hell only 3 or so of NK's 40 MiG-29's came from Russia, however it was admittedly very opportunistic as one of the main reasons for the famine was Russia ceasing to bankroll NK after the fall of the USSR (coincidentally also a reason NK was trying to bolster its weapons as it no longer had the USSR standing behind it).

Thats a good point actually, it was pretty much at the height of famine IIRC that they aquired many of their most advanced aircraft which are probably one of if not their highest military spending - those mig-29s would have cost them in the region of $60million each atleast.
 
Yep china is packed full of dog eaters, have you seen how they are bred and treated?

This is going off topic so I won't go on

Never heard such absolute clap-trap. Of course it isn't :rolleyes:

Like i said a few pages back the UK seem to have a 1950's view of China.
 
And I'm talking about eating a human, I mean surely we have more mass therefor there would be more of us to eat? So in that respect why take the life of multiple dogs when you could take the life of one human and eat them instead?

Because almost exclusively throughout the world isn't sociably acceptable, that's why, coupled with the fact you can't even begin to compare eating one of you own species to that of eating what is just another animal, regardless of emotional attachment.

Two very different things.
 
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Rubbish. Communism rids the idea of religion and God just as all atheists wish to see happen. We only need to look at history to see the result of such a world. Communist societys show what would happen with a world without religion and where the government set themselves up to be God, just as Stalin did.

Marx identified religion as the "opiate of the people." Atheism was the reason for communism ever coming about.


I'm not sure from your post that you understand the meaning of atheism .i.e atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. Not the believe that dieties don't exist.

There is a marked difference.
 
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Rubbish. Communism rids the idea of religion and God just as all atheists wish to see happen. We only need to look at history to see the result of such a world. Communist societys show what would happen with a world without religion and where the government set themselves up to be God, just as Stalin did.

Marx identified religion as the "opiate of the people." Atheism was the reason for communism ever coming about.

You are just making gross generalisations, mixing concepts and confusing terms. In all effect, none of the communist states in the planet did oust religion, that is first of all.

North Korea is more similar to a religious state than to anything else, since it is a clear personality cult, and I wouldn't really label it as a communist regime, in the true sense of the word.

Last equating atheist straight away to communist it is so last century (first half of) :rolleyes:
 
Rubbish. Communism rids the idea of religion and God just as all atheists wish to see happen. We only need to look at history to see the result of such a world. Communist societys show what would happen with a world without religion and where the government set themselves up to be God, just as Stalin did.

Marx identified religion as the "opiate of the people." Atheism was the reason for communism ever coming about.

Jesus was a socialist. Long before the term was even coined. So, Jesus was a Socialist Hipster.
 
so nobody uses it to text anymore then? damn I feel so old

and he was still trolling unless his definition for that stands as well
 
and he was still trolling unless his definition for that stands as well

Oh no, its textbook trolling.

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Back on topic though, having just looked at SK's air force itinerary, I doubt they would even need the USAF's help to deal with NK's air force, NK has 40 MiG-29's and a bunch of really old stuff. SK has almost 170x F16's (the US equivalent of the "29") plus 60x F15's, 70x F4's and 170x F5's.
 
Oh no, its textbook trolling.

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Back on topic though, having just looked at SK's air force itinerary, I doubt they would even need the USAF's help to deal with NK's air force, NK has 40 MiG-29's and a bunch of really old stuff. SK has almost 170x F16's (the US equivalent of the "29") plus 60x F15's, 70x F4's and 170x F5's.

And what is more important, they got fuel to keep all of them in the air for more than 30 minutes :D
 
After watching that dreadful propaganda filled video of the NK "air force" I really know why everyone simply ignores them. It would be like England playing San Marino again if they fought in the air!

How do you guys think this would have gone had it been, say Russia / China who were pumping out the threats? Not that they would, they would simply attack, but you get my drift. :)
 
Oh no, its textbook trolling.

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Back on topic though, having just looked at SK's air force itinerary, I doubt they would even need the USAF's help to deal with NK's air force, NK has 40 MiG-29's and a bunch of really old stuff. SK has almost 170x F16's (the US equivalent of the "29") plus 60x F15's, 70x F4's and 170x F5's.

That's a mighty beefy air force SK have got themselves. How does that compare to our own? I'd imagine substantially larger?
 
That's a mighty beefy air force SK have got themselves. How does that compare to our own? I'd imagine substantially larger?

Well, not counting old junk, as far as fighters go we just have slightly over 100 Typhoons and ~120 Tornados, you could also include our 66 Apaches in that as they are quite capable of downing a lot of NK's older hardware.

So again, NK air force, no chance, but those MiGs would be able to worry our Tornados so their best left to the Typhoons to deal with. If you were wondering how the RAF measure up to SK then IMO (talking as somebody who's actively into aircraft not just some random keyboard warrior who can operate Wikipedia), then I would give us the advantage, they may have the numbers but we have the more advanced planes, plus its not WW2, planes don't kill planes missiles do.
 
Well, not counting old junk, as far as fighters go we just have slightly over 100 Typhoons and ~120 Tornados, you could also include our 66 Apaches in that as they are quite capable of downing a lot of NK's older hardware.

So again, NK air force, no chance, but those MiGs would be able to worry our Tornados so their best left to the Typhoons to deal with. If you were wondering how the RAF measure up to SK then IMO (talking as somebody who's actively into aircraft not just some random keyboard warrior who can operate Wikipedia), then I would give us the advantage, they may have the numbers but we have the more advanced planes, plus its not WW2, planes don't kill planes missiles do.

How are the south koreans on missile tech?
 
Why is everyone so bothered? It would be best if the USA is gone and never seen again. That way the world can be at peace.

USA provoked this war.

Like all the others they've caused. They love it when they stick their noses into other countries business.

Here is another fact: 70% of the world hate America/USA. It is the most hated country on earth.

Research and see why.

Edit: It's not like we're going to lose anything. lol

UK isn't the one that copies history and steals oils, products and much more from other lands.

USA does all that. Glad to see it gone. The day it goes. I will have a party.
 
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Why is everyone so bothered? It would be best if the USA is gone and never seen again. That way the world can be at peace.

USA provoked this war.

Like all the others they've caused. They love it when they stick their noses into other countries business.

Here is another fact: 70% of the world hate America/USA. It is the most hated country on earth.

Research and see why.

Edit: It's not like we're going to lose anything. lol

UK isn't the one that copies history and steals oils, products and much more from other lands.

USA does all that. Glad to see it gone. The day it goes. I will have a party.

If the USA disappeared, what would we watch on TV?
 
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