GTX Titan or Xfire 7950s?

[LtMatt]

You should try out MLAA Tommy. I would expect that would be a much lower FPS hit than MSAA.

 

[Wh00pS]

It may just be my aging eyes but Tomb Raider & Crysis 3 dont look any better on ultra than they do on high settings so why the need to run them fully maxed out?

 

[tommybhoy]

You should try out MLAA Tommy. I would expect that would be a much lower FPS hit than MSAA.

I'll give it a matty fiddle at some point.

 

[LtMatt]

It may just be my aging eyes but Tomb Raider & Crysis 3 dont look any better on ultra than they do on high settings so why the need to run them fully maxed out?

You might be right Wh00pS but i wouldn’t wait until the last minute to fill out those organ donor cards.

I'll give it a matty fiddle at some point.

Good lad. I use it in battlefield 3 instead of FXAA+MSAA. Less of a performance hit/blur.

 

[Gregster]

If you take a look about, all gpus single and dual or more are all dropping frames, althouh AMD have a larger issue to sort out than Nvidia.

It all depends whether an individual's pockets are deep enough or/and cba with playing about with tools that can rectify the issues at less than half the price of Titan.

Do you have a link for the single and dual cards dropping frames please?

 

[tommybhoy]

The frame time testing again reveals very different performance to that of the frames per second data above. With a frame time of 19ms, the GTX Titan averaged just 53fps, a far cry from the 88fps we saw in the FPS testing.

This time the HD 7970 GHz Edition was slower than the GTX 670 as it took 29ms between frames opposed to just 27ms, meaning the former was effectively pumping out just 34fps.

With a frame rendering time of 25ms, the GTX Titan effectively only delivered 40fps, the GTX 680 was much slower at 40ms (25fps), and the HD 7970 GHz Edition took 49ms (20fps). While the latter two did provide playable performance, it wasn't quite as smooth as the frame per second data above might suggest.

Back to the graphics cards, we are interested to see how the next driver release from AMD and Nvidia handles frame latency performance. There's currently great disparity on how to properly measure graphics card performance, considering some of Fraps' shortcomings (the current standard for testing average frames per second), the question that frame time performance raises, particularly on multi-GPU setups, and up and coming test tools like Nvidia's FCAT.

Having that said, we still play games ourselves, Bioshock Infinite included, and we believe the data we are showing accurately represents a comparison between GPUs and what you need to play the game smoothly. Based on current driver's performance, for playing at 1920x1200/1920x1080 you'll at least want a Radeon HD 7870 or GeForce GTX 660, while a more demanding resolution (2560x1600) will ask for no less than a Geforce GTX 670 or Radeon HD 7970.

There is no data for dual cards, but if single cards are dropping frames, it's an assumption on my part dual are doing it too.

http://www.techspot.com/review/655-bioshock-infinite-performance/page3.html

Note on the above review, it claimed maxed settings, but his settings pics doesn't show max settings(post processing normal)-it was tested on DX10 not DX11.

 

[LurkingWeasel]

Titan isn't ridiculous for 1080p, it's bloody fantastic. lol

But that's only because I have a 120hz screen, so it is a little different.

Do you have a pamphlet? Or in other words, I'm thinking of going all out and getting a Titan at 1080p @ 120Hz and would like to hear more of your experiences Have you posted in the Titan owner's thread by any chance?

 

[Gregster]

Very interesting and shows how frame drops are happening on the Unreal Engine 2.5 (modified). I was expecting this game to dominate for AMD being a Gaming Evolved title but even after accounting the frame drops, the 660TI could keep up with a 7970.

Talking about this game, I was very disappointed in the quality and was expecting a better looking title after the hype.

 

[Rusty0611]

Maybe rusty or someone else can confirm, but personally C3 looks lovely regardless whether using 4xMSAA or not and can look the part with custom sweetFX settings that lessen the impact of performance hitting MSAA.

Even the cheaper option of another 50 is a huge price to pay imho for only a scant few titles.

Not tried it yet. It's on my Never Settle to play list. Currently doing Bioshock Infinite .

 

[tommybhoy]

I was expecting this game to dominate for AMD being a Gaming Evolved title but even after accounting the frame drops, the 660TI could keep up with a 7970.

Exactly why I added this bit:

Note on the above review, it claimed maxed settings, but his settings pics doesn't show max settings(post processing normal)-it was tested on DX10 not DX11.

This is extremely biased towards Nvidia, they intentionally left post processing to "normal" which is DX10 instead of maxing it out to "Ultra" which is DX11 because Post-Processing Ultra is significantly faster on AMD cards, shame on you techspot !

This is not the first time that you intentionally manipulated the settings in favor of Nvidia .

Reviewer's answer:

I guess we have been caught red handed once again, or should I say green handed.

So what's to say any of the rest of the testing was 'fairly' presented when there was an agenda???

 

[MrMarvelous]

Titan = Buy it just so you can say you own a Titan and have shelled out a lot of money for it.

7970's = I would have thought they might have significantly better re-sale value.

Pick your poison here, both options are as good as each other.

 

[Gregster]

I think best we don't ever use any review sites because we can sit all day long and pick faults with the testing methodology, in fact, we can pick faults with user testing as well. At some point though, we have to look at these graphs and see them for how they are.

 

[andybird123]

There is no data for dual cards, but if single cards are dropping frames, it's an assumption on my part dual are doing it too.

http://www.techspot.com/review/655-bioshock-infinite-performance/page3.html

Note on the above review, it claimed maxed settings, but his settings pics doesn't show max settings(post processing normal)-it was tested on DX10 not DX11.

Ultra = dx11 (contact hardening shadows and HDAO are both dx11 only)

Post processing alternate isn't required to make it dx11

Nice try though

 

[tommybhoy]

It wasn't a try, I only went off of the comments lol.

The point still stands though, it wasn't tested maxed out-even the reviewer admitted they got caught out-not that gregory acknowledged that part either.

 

[Gregster]

I did find a benchmark from that dodgy Russian site for this game that Matt likes.

Not sure if we can still use this though, as it has Nvidia winning?

 

[Drangueos]

MY opnion

single monitor 60hz = 1x 7950
single monitor 120hz = 2x 7950
3 monitors = 2x 7950 or 3x 7950 if your MB support it

I regret not getting a 3820 instead of a 3770k (I already had the motherboard), I would be running 3x7950 now instead 2x7950.

 

[James J]

Do you have a pamphlet? Or in other words, I'm thinking of going all out and getting a Titan at 1080p @ 120Hz and would like to hear more of your experiences Have you posted in the Titan owner's thread by any chance?

I'm also a titan user with a 144hz screen so can answer any questions you want to email to me if you need some help.

As for the OP, If you can afford the titan, you won't be disappointed. If you want to really push the performance though and don't mind tweaking + saving some cash, get the xfire cards.

 

[Gregster]

This one looks real.

Sorry to the OP for OT but it does give you an indication of what to expect with certain GPU's in this game

 

[Rusty0611]

I did find a benchmark from that dodgy Russian site for this game that Matt likes.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/gregtheman_photos/bi20192020dx1120ddof.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/gregtheman_photos/bi20256020dx1120ddof.jpg[IMG]

Not sure if we can still use this though, as it has Nvidia winning? :p[/QUOTE]

Nice to see those "movie style" textures not being hampered by 2GB of VRAM. :D

 

[Diagro]

I did find a benchmark from that dodgy Russian site for this game that Matt likes.

Not sure if we can still use this though, as it has Nvidia winning?

also shows the 7970 being more than 15% faster then a 7950