Racism in Online Games
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I take it with a grain of salt, I hardly talk in online games so tend to not get invovled.
Try playing LoL sometime, best insult was from some kid who was griefing a guy on his own team saying he wouldnt have any parents soon cause they are going to die from cancer.
I can tolerate abuse but when it comes to wishing someone dead or they die of a disease, just wow.. can only hope it happens to them instead
Try playing LoL sometime, best insult was from some kid who was griefing a guy on his own team saying he wouldnt have any parents soon cause they are going to die from cancer.
I can tolerate abuse but when it comes to wishing someone dead or they die of a disease, just wow.. can only hope it happens to them instead
I'll own up, as a naive child when playing CS 1.6 I got banned from a jolt.co.uk server for getting mad and referencing a certain thing Mr Cartman said in southpark to another player. Got reported and got a life steam account ban. I was too young to really understand how it could offend somebody or was even racist but I got a ban so fair do's!
Don't know why people care about what people say on the internet. The best chance of stopping this behaviour is to ignore it so if someone gets under your skin just leave. Most games let you mute other players anyway so I don't see how people can have that much of an issue with it.
People care, because they come to the internet, or come to play games for an escape from real world stresses. People encounter racism / sexism / whatever in lots of places already, and far more frequently than you may think they do, and have this silly idea that games should be a place to for fun, free of that sort of thing.
Saying, "it's the internet" is a stupid, lazy answer, because "the internet" and "real life" aren't separate anymore. People's social lives are "the internet" plus "real life" - the artificial divide between them is collapsing, and that's a good thing. Or at least it will be once communities start putting their houses in order and policing the asshats.
That can't be done just from on high - it requires people to do more than just ignore unacceptable language, it requires normal, moderate people who don't suffer from racist / sexist etc language, to show empathy for their fellow humans and stand together with those who are hurt by it and call out the asshats whenever they do it. Make a scene of it. Get others to make a scene. Eventually the "n-word" and similar slurs will be considered unacceptable in the gaming sphere in the same way it is in most public spheres. As it should be.
Saying, "it's the internet" is a stupid, lazy answer, because "the internet" and "real life" aren't separate anymore. People's social lives are "the internet" plus "real life" - the artificial divide between them is collapsing, and that's a good thing. Or at least it will be once communities start putting their houses in order and policing the asshats.
That can't be done just from on high - it requires people to do more than just ignore unacceptable language, it requires normal, moderate people who don't suffer from racist / sexist etc language, to show empathy for their fellow humans and stand together with those who are hurt by it and call out the asshats whenever they do it. Make a scene of it. Get others to make a scene. Eventually the "n-word" and similar slurs will be considered unacceptable in the gaming sphere in the same way it is in most public spheres. As it should be.
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I sense the sarcasm is strong with this one
Also, that T.o.S reply is amazing, absolutely amazing.
In my experience you just have to ignore the comments and rise above them, they soon go away.
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That's just being over sensitive imo. Stephen Fry summed up being offended I'd re-quote but the use of a curse would offend some and result in a warning hehe. I dunno wth is going on with that reply though... not very productive.
All I can say is you've been offended, So what. Your not hurt, your alive, get on with it.
p.s they are probably a southpark viewer and I doubt they knew the person was even a jew.
All I can say is you've been offended, So what. Your not hurt, your alive, get on with it.
p.s they are probably a southpark viewer and I doubt they knew the person was even a jew.
I had to laugh, you have a known racist in your signature.
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Boo ho your offended big deal get on with life to many cry babies about
As long as you're not surprised that your average dummy don't understand the true definition of it. We once had a British Asian guy apply to our WoW raiding comm that was obsessed with his race. It bothered him so much that he even referred to racism when he was friendily chided for screwing up. Nobody mentioned race at any time but he constantly did. Then there was a black guy (British born) playing in our CSS community that couldn't leave race alone either. Both idiots got booted. Nobody had time or energy to deal with their traumas.
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I know what would solve this problem, Internet police...
You are fairly anonymous on the Internet so people's true colours tend to come out when there is no fear of direct judgment or reprisals. Such is life, sticks and stones etc... Use the tools given to you and mute them.
You are fairly anonymous on the Internet so people's true colours tend to come out when there is no fear of direct judgment or reprisals. Such is life, sticks and stones etc... Use the tools given to you and mute them.
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In any servers I run I take a hard line about this sort of thing. I agree with you AndyT... Casual racism/sexism/homophobia is pretty tedious. There's no need for that kind of language or behaviour and it isn't acceptable "banter" - it's pretty easy to have a laugh and a joke without resorting to dark ages-like attitudes.
I've ran into this sort of person too and I find that behaviour just as tedious as the behaviour I mentioned above.
In some ways that is a fair point... However, if the rules set out in a forum or on a server say that this behaviour is not allowed then anyone behaving in that way should be punished for breaking the rules. If the rules are "adult language (swearing) okay in moderation, racism/sexism/homophobia is not" then I'd expect everyone to follow those rules. If the majority of the members don't want those as rules they should go elsewhere or petition for a rule change. Of course, that pretty much never happens. I'm talking about how things should be rather than how they are.
I've ran into this sort of person too and I find that behaviour just as tedious as the behaviour I mentioned above.
In some ways that is a fair point... However, if the rules set out in a forum or on a server say that this behaviour is not allowed then anyone behaving in that way should be punished for breaking the rules. If the rules are "adult language (swearing) okay in moderation, racism/sexism/homophobia is not" then I'd expect everyone to follow those rules. If the majority of the members don't want those as rules they should go elsewhere or petition for a rule change. Of course, that pretty much never happens. I'm talking about how things should be rather than how they are.
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The word described by the admin wasn't Racist.....it was descriptive.
If anything it was slightly bullyish and unnecessary.
The word Racism or Racist is just a tool these days for certain individuals to get what they want.
You'll probably find he isn't even a Jew.
If anything it was slightly bullyish and unnecessary.
The word Racism or Racist is just a tool these days for certain individuals to get what they want.
You'll probably find he isn't even a Jew.
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As has been stated already - that was an example (perhaps a bad example) but the issue isn't that particular instance but this kind of behaviour as a whole.
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SMS is slightly mad studios. It seems about half of the developers who work there are called Andy and I know at least one of them is an Andy T so I thought that might have been you but I guess not