Bioshock 3 - Infinite

Should I be able to play this with ultra everything in the options on a 7950, i5 2500 at 1920 res? Seems a bit jerky? Read about some sort of auto aim which you need to deactivate but beyond that it just doesn't seem very smooth???

I had to disable Vsync in thge game options and force in the control centre settings. Also disable aim assist and make sure mouse accelleration is disabled there and in windows control panel itself.
 
Fov does nothing for the worst sufferers!

Not sure if i have MD never been diagnosed but I do have an inner ear inbalance issue as a I failed pressure testing at hospital. Been really bad these last four days now, nausea, light headedness since playing Bioshock.

Not impressed :(


Mal X, what's your steam name? Is it Mal X by any chance lol

my Steam name is ``an old fart that cant game anymore``:D

it might me Mal X i'm not sure, but i never game online... i've had Vertico for 30 years, but i never get a cold/ flu, i'm immune to it; just Vertico/meniers.

it usually runs in the family !!!!!!!

i retreived Bioshock from the Recycle Bin :D but i deleted loads of other stuff as well, so it still wont work, but the main game files are still there, so it'll just be a simple download to get the missing files, just in case i want to retry the game.

i'm now waiting for Riptide, metro, blood dragon, before i go online again, because due to Securom i also couldn't play Warhead !!!!! i tried everything but the game would not let me play in ``offline`` mode.
 
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It doesn't matter, all those timelines spawn from that one moment.

That's why he had to die then, that's the focal point which creates the possible futures with Comstock.

If Booker dies at that moment all timelines from that point forward with Comstock in them collapse.

But if there are infinite universes for every choice, surely there will be a universe where the events of the game have taken place and it gets to the point of Elizabeth drowning Booker and she chooses not to? This would then set into motion what has happened again (if Booker chooses the baptism)
 
But if there are infinite universes for every choice, surely there will be a universe where the events of the game have taken place and it gets to the point of Elizabeth drowning Booker and she chooses not to? This would then set into motion what has happened again (if Booker chooses the baptism)

Constants and variable, i cant really explain it well but it revolves around this idea
 
But if there are infinite universes for every choice, surely there will be a universe where the events of the game have taken place and it gets to the point of Elizabeth drowning Booker and she chooses not to? This would then set into motion what has happened again (if Booker chooses the baptism)

Again, it doesn't matter.

That timeline was spawned when Booker-Prime decided to get baptised, by going back to the point of the baptism and ensuring Booker dies at that single converging time-line focal point there can be no time-lines where Booker gets baptised and doesn't die, as such there can be no time-line where Comstock exists, and if Comstock doesn't exist, then Elizabeth can't exist to either drown/not-drown Booker. That's the paradox and the closed loop.

By changing the 'Booker Variable' into a 'Booker Constant' the only timelines that exist, or don't cancel out are ones where Booker doesn't get baptised and goes on to do whatever.

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Loving this so far, thought it would be a tad like Dishonored but it's quite a bit different. Only thing that's getting a bit of a grind is the length between the game saves. I can only really play an hour and a half each time and it's really annoying being told you are going to lose 20 mins of play if you exit now. I like to look around a bit..!
A bit 2 steps forward and 1 back.
 
I had to disable Vsync in thge game options and force in the control centre settings. Also disable aim assist and make sure mouse accelleration is disabled there and in windows control panel itself.

I'm having these issues at the moment, driving me mad. Have done the Vsync fix which made the buildings stop flickering, will try the other options tonight.

Also, slightly weird, set the Vsync to 60FPS in Radeon Pro, but in the game it now fixes itself to 50FPS and no higher?
 
Again, it doesn't matter.

That timeline was spawned when Booker-Prime decided to get baptised, by going back to the point of the baptism and ensuring Booker dies at that single converging time-line focal point there can be no time-lines where Booker gets baptised and doesn't die, as such there can be no time-line where Comstock exists, and if Comstock doesn't exist, then Elizabeth can't exist to either drown/not-drown Booker. That's the paradox and the closed loop.

By changing the 'Booker Variable' into a 'Booker Constant' the only timelines that exist, or don't cancel out are ones where Booker doesn't get baptised and goes on to do whatever.

e.g.
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But arent there supposed to be infinite universes all holding the infinite possibilities of what could happen based on peoples choices? It would therefore stand to reason that Elizabeth drowning Booker was a choice and there would be another universe where she chooses NOT to drown Booker and he gets Baptised. Though i am guessing the reason for this is that this rule doesnt apply to Elizabeth as she is creating tears in the fabric of the universe and is moving about freely within them. Therefore the choices she makes whilst in a tear dont create parallel universes.
 
But arent there supposed to be infinite universes all holding the infinite possibilities of what could happen based on peoples choices? It would therefore stand to reason that Elizabeth drowning Booker was a choice and there would be another universe where she chooses NOT to drown Booker and he gets Baptised. Though i am guessing the reason for this is that this rule doesnt apply to Elizabeth as she is creating tears in the fabric of the universe and is moving about freely within them. Therefore the choices she makes whilst in a tear dont create parallel universes.

ALL timelines where Elizabeth and Comstock exist spawn from the single point of Bookers baptism.

Up to that point you can think of it as a single timeline.

If Booker is killed while undertaking the baptism at that single convergence point, then all timelines that spawn from it cease to exist.

It doesn't matter what happens in them, or who drowns who, or if the Earth turns into candyfloss.

They ALL cease to exist because the event that creates them never happens.
 
ALL timelines where Elizabeth and Comstock exist spawn from the single point of Bookers baptism.

Up to that point you can think of it as a single timeline.

If Booker is killed while undertaking the baptism at that single convergence point, then all timelines that spawn from it cease to exist.

It doesn't matter what happens in them, or who drowns who, or if the Earth turns into candyfloss.

They ALL cease to exist because the event that creates them never happens.

I realise that. What i am saying is that from what we know, there are infinite parallel universes based on peoples decisions. If that is the case, then surely another universe would be created for the eventuality that Elizabeth DOESNT drown booker and Booker still has the baptism and the events of Comstock and Elizabeth therefore still happen. In the parallel universe that she chooses NOT to drown booker in, Booker will still be free to make the choice on the baptism and therefore the comstock/Elizabeth line will happen.

This is unless, (due to Elizabeth actually creating tears and " infiltrating" the timelines) her decisions whilst in these timelines do not create parallel universes, which i think is the case
 
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I realise that. What i am saying is that from what we know, there are infinite parallel universes based on peoples decisions. If that is the case, then surely another universe would be created for the eventuality that Elizabeth DOESNT drown booker and Booker still has the baptism and the events of Comstock and Elizabeth therefore still happen. In the parallel universe that she chooses NOT to drown booker in, Booker will still be free to make the choice on the baptism and therefore the comstock/Elizabeth line will happen.

This is unless, (due to Elizabeth actually creating tears and " infiltrating" the timelines) her decisions whilst in these timelines do not create parallel universes, which i think is the case

No, you are not realising that. If you were you still wouldn't be repeating yourself.

That parallel universe where Elizabeth doesn't drown Booker?.. doesn't exist until the moment Booker arises as Comstock after the baptism.

Every universe/timeline/whatever where Elizabeth exists splits from the moment Booker is baptised and becomes Comstock.

If Booker is drowned at that crucial junction before he becomes Comstock then ALL universes/timelines/whatever that follow can never happen.

Elizabeth uses her power to ensure that at that critical point in time the Booker that chooses baptism always dies and never becomes Comstock.

That is the end of the loop, that is the end to any and all possible infinite futures where Comstock ever existed in any universe/timeline ever, no matter the choices made in any of them. They all come back to the initial baptism.

And that is also the Paradox. As Elizabeth can't exist to drown Booker without Comstock existing as well. So all those timelines/universes are in a constant flux of existing and not-existing at the same time, so in effect they cancel out and don't ever happen as they are impossible.

Leaving ONLY futures where Booker never gets baptised to propagate forwards into time.
 
No, you are not realising that. If you were you still wouldn't be repeating yourself.

That parallel universe where Elizabeth doesn't drown Booker?.. doesn't exist until the moment Booker arises as Comstock after the baptism.

Every universe/timeline/whatever where Elizabeth exists splits from the moment Booker is baptised and becomes Comstock.

If Booker is drowned at that crucial junction before he becomes Comstock then ALL universes/timelines/whatever that follow can never happen.

Elizabeth uses her power to ensure that at that critical point in time the Booker that chooses baptism always dies and never becomes Comstock.

That is the end of the loop, that is the end to any and all possible infinite futures where Comstock ever existed in any universe/timeline ever, no matter the choices made in any of them. They all come back to the initial baptism.

And that is also the Paradox. As Elizabeth can't exist to drown Booker without Comstock existing as well. So all those timelines/universes are in a constant flux of existing and not-existing at the same time, so in effect they cancel out and don't ever happen as they are impossible.

Leaving ONLY futures where Booker never gets baptised to propagate forwards into time.

No i understand completely what you are saying and i actually think that your explanation is correct ( well i don't think that, it is). At first i was thinking about what if everything Elizabeth did whilst travelling into tears and visiting memories was also affected by this "multiverse for every decisions law" but having done some more reading it appears that as she was only "visiting" the memories by creating tears she wasnt creating new branches/parallel universes so her choices would not branch.
 
Loving this so far, thought it would be a tad like Dishonored but it's quite a bit different. Only thing that's getting a bit of a grind is the length between the game saves. I can only really play an hour and a half each time and it's really annoying being told you are going to lose 20 mins of play if you exit now. I like to look around a bit..!
A bit 2 steps forward and 1 back.

Yeah saving system is really backwards :| even tomb raider managed to autosave the game at good points so you didn't lose too much gameplay or have to do annoying bits over and over.
 
No i understand completely what you are saying and i actually think that your explanation is correct ( well i don't think that, it is). At first i was thinking about what if everything Elizabeth did whilst travelling into tears and visiting memories was also affected by this "multiverse for every decisions law" but having done some more reading it appears that as she was only "visiting" the memories by creating tears she wasnt creating new branches/parallel universes so her choices would not branch.

Yup, Elizabeth creating tears doesn't change anything that happened up to that point in whatever timeline she crosses to, but anything she or Booker does while in the new timeline does change the future outcome.

They are new variables introduced into the timeline, and whatever future that timeline had prior to Elizabeth creating a tear ceases to exist the moment she creates it, and they create a new alternate future.

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Just completed it. Best story I have experienced in a game in a while. But the combat was just awful certain fights in particular. Such a shame but the game still stands up well purely on the story and visuals.
 
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