Bioshock 3 - Infinite

[C64]

What would you consider to be an amazing story, for example? And how can you possibly comment on it if you haven't even finished the game?

Go troll somewhere else.

Because I have played enough to know it's not a good story same as If a movie doesn't draw me in after 30 minutes I wont finish watching it if it's bad.

I love how anyone that doesn't like the game or begs to differ is immediately labelled a troll.

I am not calling people who love the game trolls so why should you call someone who hates it a troll ? anyway I am out this games a 7/10 at very best thanks to the shockingly poor and boring gameplay.

 

[zenf]

Because I have played enough to know it's not a good story same as If a movie doesn't draw me in after 30 minutes I wont finish watching it if it's bad.

I love how anyone that doesn't like the game or begs to differ is immediately labelled a troll.

I am not calling people who love the game trolls so why should you call someone who hates it a troll ?

Because you just criticised the story but if you haven't finished it, you know nothing about the story because it isn't explained until the end. On top of that, you called people who appreciate the story, sheep.

Fair enough if you really hated the gameplay and that put you off, but you're not in a position to judge the story if you haven't finished the game I'm afraid. You don't know the half of it so stop trolling.

 

[C64]

Because you just criticised the story but if you haven't finished it, you know nothing about the story. On top of that, you called people who appreciate the story, sheep.

Fair enough if you really hated the gameplay and that put you off, but you're not in a position to judge the story if you haven't finished the game I'm afraid. You don't know the half of it so stop trolling.

So you are saying you cant watch half a movie not like it and not think the story is good enough to continue watching ?

The game feels like they spent years making it look nice and the last month making the gameplay and the actual game and i'll stand by that til the end.

I look forward to the review scores gradually coming down to around 75-80.

 

[DrToffnar]

Because I have played enough to know it's not a good story same as If a movie doesn't draw me in after 30 minutes I wont finish watching it if it's bad.

I love how anyone that doesn't like the game or begs to differ is immediately labelled a troll.

I am not calling people who love the game trolls so why should you call someone who hates it a troll ?

Because your opinion isn't an opinion at all, it's simply a closed minded and ridiculous view point that has no logical reasoning behind it. It's your blind criticism of the game and the people who praise it that's getting you so much hate, not your so called 'opinion' on it.

 

[zenf]

So you are saying you cant watch half a movie not like it and not think the story is good enough to continue watching ?

The game feels like they spent years making it look nice and the last month making the gameplay and the actual game and i'll stand by that til the end.

I look forward to the review scores gradually coming down to around 75-80.

No, you can't judge the story of a movie or game or anything if you've only seen half of it. You can judge half of it, but that's it.

It's quite sad really, you're going to be missing out on one of the best pieces of media in a long time because of your preconceived ideas about the game. Ah well, your loss. The rest of the world is loving it.

 

[mark43]

The thing is C64, it’s not like you’re just being critical of the game but it’s that you’re being critical of people for liking it. Calling people sheep for example, have you considered that if so many people love the game then there may just be a good reason, even if you don’t get it or it’s not for you. Personally I played it without reading any reviews or other opinions and loved it. You’ve also come out with some very weird crap, at one point you said people who like this are the sort of people who buy Fifa each year, and now you’re going on about console graphic whores, none of these comments make any sense and you are just embarrassing yourself.

 

[5960xNvidiaGamer]

Because I have played enough to know it's not a good story same as If a movie doesn't draw me in after 30 minutes I wont finish watching it if it's bad.

I love how anyone that doesn't like the game or begs to differ is immediately labelled a troll.

I am not calling people who love the game trolls so why should you call someone who hates it a troll ? anyway I am out this games a 7/10 at very best thanks to the shockingly poor and boring gameplay.

Well your right C64, i thought it was bad after 30 minutes too, but played the full game and it got worse and worse. So you are spot on mate. Its the worst game ive played in a long time.

 

[weyland yutani]

Can anyone clarify what needs changing in XEngine ini under [texturestreaming] to improve performance? I have 1GB or vram if that helps.

I've only changed poolsize from 400 to 600 (and -ReadTexturePoolFromIni in steam launch options) and also disabled ingame vsync and use D3DOverrider instead. This has stopped the constant drops to 30fps but I'm seeing ugly DoF effects that I don't remember seeing earlier in the game.

 

[blueshift]

I hated the game , but i did finish it, i thought it would get better. The story i thought was extremely dull, the visuals at times where nice, but not all the time. The combat as already said was terrible. There just was so little about the game to like for me. I know everyone has there own opinions, this is just what i thought of this game.

But then Dishonoured i also thought was awful and many liked it, so i guess its each to there own.

I totally agree.
And on the dishonoured mention as well.

 

[McGray]

I totally agree.
And on the dishonoured mention as well.

Me three.

 

[weyland yutani]

I'm a few hours in and I'm enjoying it a lot (much better than Bioshock which I couldn't get into) but it does look, feel and sound like Dishonored at times. Very similar art style, sound and gameplay elements like weapons/vigor, even very similar music when you engage enemies.

 

[MooMoo444]

Well your right C64, i thought it was bad after 30 minutes too, but played the full game and it got worse and worse. So you are spot on mate. Its the worst game ive played in a long time.

While it may not be the worst game I've played in a long time, I do kind of agree to the premise that the game and story isn't anything special. Bioshock 1 does everything Infinite does, much better. Infinite just seems like it's riding on past glory.

I mean hell if you rename Vigors to Plasmids, change Handymen to Big Daddies, and make it nighttime permanently, it's the same game, although not as atmospheric, and the characters suck..

 

[blueshift]

Nice to look at for a while, but even that became monotonous
And what was that with Liz flipping me a coin every 2 minutes?, I had loads of swag anyway it was all over the shop, id rather she had flipped me the finger would have been far more entertaining

 

[zenf]

I mean hell if you rename Vigors to Plasmids, change Handymen to Big Daddies, and make it nighttime permanently, it's the same game, although not as atmospheric, and the characters suck..

That comment suggests to me that you don't really appreciate what was revealed at the end...

Spoiler

That's exactly what the "There's always a man, always a lighthouse" part is about. In each of the Bioshock universes there are always certain parallels; there's always a city created by a visionary which ends in ruin, always an Elizabeth/Little Sisters equivalent protected by Big Daddies/Songbird, etc. It's actually explained in the game that Fink's inspiration for Songbird and Vigors was seeing them through a tear, possibly into the Rapture universe.

Were you aware that you can hear Songbird die in Bioshock 1? Or that the Lutece 'twins' are actually the same person?

There's an insane amount of depth to this story and it's told so fantastically well that I really don't understand how anyone couldn't be astounded by it.

 

[TheVoice]

Because I have played enough to know it's not a good story same as If a movie doesn't draw me in after 30 minutes I wont finish watching it if it's bad.

I love how anyone that doesn't like the game or begs to differ is immediately labelled a troll.

I am not calling people who love the game trolls so why should you call someone who hates it a troll ? anyway I am out this games a 7/10 at very best thanks to the shockingly poor and boring gameplay.

No, you've called them "console tard graphics whores" and "sheep" which is probably worse.

A lot of the stuff you've said in this thread isn't even correct; may I remind you of your "There are no vigor combinations!" debacle from about a week ago.

I look forward to the review scores gradually coming down to around 75-80.

That's a rather arrogant view to have; are you expecting everyone else to eventually fall in line with your way of thinking or something?

I'm all for people having a different opinion, and of course people are entitled to like or dislike the game. It'd be incredibly boring if everyone liked everything or were too afraid to criticise. To be honest, I'm sure everyone here who praises the game could (and have) criticised aspects of it; it isn't perfect in every single way. You don't seem to actually be explaining your criticisms though, you're just blabbering about how everyone who likes it is wrong and and stating that it's not actually a good game as if that's just a fact.

i read this quite a lot on this thread and i tend to agree :cool

Bioshock just isn't fun, but Fettel in FEAR 3 was, now he could lift them up off the ground and Zap them as well, so the idea of the special powers works fine, it just has to be in the right game !!!!! it also works well in Bulletstorm doesn't it.

but these games only had one power, it was very easy to use, but Bioshock drives you crazy, it has way too many varients, it confuses you.

as a shooter only, which is fine...Bioshock needed to be a much smarter version of Bulletstorm, mind you, you cant get any dumber can you

but as a stealth game....more like Sam Fisher/ Deux Ex, but Bioshock is RPG/ old School shooter together in one game, no this doesn't work, now why it doesn't work as an old school shooter is quite interesting :- AMMO, there aint enough to stand there and just blast away, it really is as simple as that !!

It seems like it's taken you this long to realise what everyone else knew a week or so ago; you were expecting (nay, demanding) that BI be a completely different game to what it is. You as a player need to be willing to adjust your play style to fit the game. You've said previously that you want the game to be "realistic" so you only want to use conventional weapons (because you can't get more realistic than a guy on a floating city rescuing a girl who can travel through time and space, can you?) as opposed to using the vigors. That's just tough, quite frankly; it was obvious they'd be a major component of the combat in the game on the basis of Bioshock, Bioshock 2 and all the previews of Bioshock Infinite.

You've gone into the game expecting it to be something quite different, and now you seem to think the game is at fault. It'd be like buying a JCB, and then complaining that it's too complicated to dig a hole in the garden. If that's all you wanted, you should have bought a spade.

 

[Wogahamsel]

As much as I said I found the combat boring
I enjoyed playing it to the end and felt down when it finished. The story was excellent if crammed a little bit near the end. It wasn't perfect but it will stick with me for a while. Also console graphic whores? that makes no sense

 

[blueshift]

yeah but a jcb is more exciting

 

[blueshift]

im not getting the story etc was great, but the combat was boring arguement, isnt the combat one of the most important components of a fps shooter?

 

[Wogahamsel]

im not getting the story etc was great, but the combat was boring arguement, isnt the combat one of the most important components of a fps shooter?

Yes but I also think every other area of the game is exceptional that the combat feels weaker. I also played on hard which just turns everyone into bullet sponges (should have played on easy). The game is a lot of combat but the sections inbetween are just as important.

 

[SlyReaper]

Personally, I found the combat to be pretty damn good. The skyrails were an absolute joy to zip around on, the guns were... well the guns were boring as hell, but the vigors had some fairly interesting mechanics, and the gear added a good deal of variety and customization. Being able to summon things from alternate realities was also a pretty cool mechanic. Perhaps there was too much combat, because all the relentless fighting did detract from the overall tone of the game. The game forces you to slaughter pretty much the entire city before reaching your objective. I wish there was a stealth mechanic, so a lot of it could be avoided.

The only bit I truly hated were those ghost fights. It got to the point where I just gave up, turned the difficulty down to easy and just leeroyed at the ghost with the shotgun and just relied on Elizabeth to keep reviving me.