GTX Titan II on the cards?

Gregster · 21 Apr 2013 at 19:53

As a "GeForce GTX Titan II" might look

Thursday 18 April 2013

/ By Leonidas

The GeForce GTX titanium currently leads - despite the contradictions that the exorbitant price point - all the charts on the performance of single-chip accelerators clear, a slimmed version is also in the form of the GeForce GTX Titan LE already on the way. It even has the original GeForce GTX titanium already a (small) Abspeckung - the card is not known, provides all the hardware units of the underlying GK110 chips on. This of course is due to the fact that a well-officially 561mm ² large graphics chip can not be made really easy and especially not without certain rejection rate. By means of in the original GeForce GTX titanium unlocked only 2688 of original 2880 shader units do not rely on entirely perfect from the GK110 chip manufacturing, which just might initially help tremendously.

Over time, the GK110-production but will be automatically better, the Aussschussquote will continue to decline - and thus accumulate a certain number of GK110 chips, which are made absolutely perfect. This perfectly crafted GK110 chips can then certainly wasted in the production of the original GeForce GTX titanium - or you put on a new, higher titanium variant, called by us the following simple once "GeForce GTX Titan II". This map would include eventually offer the full extension of the GK110 chips even higher clock rates and therefore could be in the frame (depending on clock speed) of 10 to 15 percent drop off performance of the original GeForce GTX titanium.

Until now, this is of course only one (theoretical) option available - this is interesting only if nVidia can do something with this Möglichekeit. This depends on the medium-term plans to nVidia, which are still clearly unsure as opposed to AMD. But accepted the point, the next (real) generation of graphics cards from nVidia is identical to AMD's plans for the Radeon HD 8000 series until the year 2013/2014, could be a "GeForce GTX Titan II" for the GeForce 700 series the same take part as now for the GeForce 600 series - as a top card clearly above the level of performance of the subsequent accelerator.

This would be more important than that we the top models of the Radeon HD 8000 series already close to the original GeForce GTX titanium estimate . To lie back a decent distance performance to the Radeon HD 8970, nVidia needs just a little faster than titanium card is now offered. If so Radeon HD 8000 and GeForce 700 series (for desktop issues) really only appear at the end, would be such a "GeForce GTX Titan II" ideal for nVidia to the currently observed state of the titanium as clear about all enthroned performance produce winners again. The technological possibilities has to be, because the orginal GeForce GTX titanium the possibilities of the GK110 chips as I said not yet exhausted.

With a solid expansion of the GK110 chips and something higher clock rates interesting things are quite possible: On approved 950 MHz clock - which seems very achievable given the overclocking results of the current GeForce GTX titanium - would be 16.2% more computing and Texturierleistung come. Assuming a slightly increased memory clock - for example, at 3400 MHz, which is 13.3% more memory bandwidth results - this increased computing power would be well more immutably in performance. In this (currently only theoretical) model would certainly be close to 15% more power than the original GeForce GTX titanium achievable.

http://www.3dcenter.org/artikel/wie-eine-geforce-gtx-titan-ii-aussehen-koennte

Pinch of salt as always

Schizo · 21 Apr 2013 at 20:00

Of course they will make another Titan,people are willing to pay over the od's for a card and nvidia will use that to take in more dollars.

James J · 21 Apr 2013 at 21:29

Sounds like an absolute load of waffle to me just to get the fanbois going. How can you make graphs etc on something that doesn't even exist, let alone not even benchmarked it...

fishingcat · 21 Apr 2013 at 21:34

Yep, this is just speculation.

I'm sure there will be more Titans down the line, but this is pointless.

Rroff · 21 Apr 2013 at 21:37

fishingcat said:
I'm sure there will be more Titans down the line, but this is pointless.

I'd be suprised if there isn't - seems no shortage of people (even taking into account business purchases for cheap compute cards) buying the Titan even at around 1k prices

Kaapstad · 21 Apr 2013 at 22:12

Pure speculation and totally pointless

If Nvidia already have the fastest graphics card in the Titan, to launch a Titan 2 would be totally pointless, all it will do is take sales away from the Titan.

This would be a load of work and expense for nothing from nvidias point of view.

The only thing that will change the status quo is if AMD launch a contender for the top spot.

humbug · 22 Apr 2013 at 00:12

Did you see that report on the GTX platinum? 'theoretical, not confirmed' it will have 2900 cores, a die size of 624mm ² and be 30% faster than Titan.
Estimated RRP is £ 2001.

Bromhead · 22 Apr 2013 at 00:37

I'm confused, where/why/how did they decide to release benchmarks of something that doesn't exist :/

I'm going to personally create graphs to show that unicorns can fly quicker than any pegasus alive. Watch this space.

Duff-Man · 22 Apr 2013 at 04:49

Kaapstad said:
If Nvidia already have the fastest graphics card in the Titan, to launch a Titan 2 would be totally pointless, all it will do is take sales away from the Titan.

This would be a load of work and expense for nothing from nvidias point of view.

Not really. A large proportion of Titan owners are in the "must have the fastest card at whatever cost" category. Many of these would ditch their Titan(s) for a Titan 2, even if the improvement was only in the region of 10%. 1000eur is a lot of money to most people (myself included), but it is small change to some.

As for being "a load of work and expense", well, it's using the same chip as the Titan, presumably the on same board, and with the same memory. The only requirement is to have a sufficient number of chips that can operate with their full compliment of 2880 shaders. How many chips are actually capable of operating at this level is something only Nvidia and TSMC will know. If the yields are sufficient, then there is very little reason not to release another high-profit card.

Duff-Man · 22 Apr 2013 at 04:51

Bromhead said:
I'm confused, where/why/how did they decide to release benchmarks of something that doesn't exist :/

I'm going to personally create graphs to show that unicorns can fly quicker than any pegasus alive. Watch this space.

They aren't benchmarks; they're comparing the relative number each of the key components. Check the legend at the bottom: Bandwidth, ROPs (etc). These can give an indication of maximum theoretical throughput, but they do not tell us how the cards will perform "in the real world".

Gregster · 22 Apr 2013 at 07:57

The article isn't saying it will be official but if Nvidia get better yields from the wafers, it is a likely thing to happen.

Diagro · 22 Apr 2013 at 08:05

So they dont intend to release the new stuff in the 700 series... just chuck out more over priced tat that sheep will buy?

Great...

Yaayuh! · 22 Apr 2013 at 08:08

Interesting, but i don't really see the need for nVidia to do this.

Gregster · 22 Apr 2013 at 08:10

Diagro said:
So they dont intend to release the new stuff in the 700 series... just chuck out more over priced tat that sheep will buy?

Great...

I don't think sheep have wallets...Come to think of it, a sheep would find it hard building a computer system due to the lack of fingers and thumbs.

Kaapstad · 22 Apr 2013 at 08:14

Diagro said:
So they dont intend to release the new stuff in the 700 series... just chuck out more over priced tat that sheep will buy?

Great...

Does AMD have a GPU in the same part of the market the Titan addresses, err no.

Therefore you can not say the Titan is overpriced because there is nothing to compare it to.

Marine-RX179 · 22 Apr 2013 at 08:44

Kaapstad said:
Does AMD have a GPU in the same part of the market the Titan addresses, err no.

Therefore you can not say the Titan is overpriced because there is nothing to compare it to.

I think most people wouldn't give a flying F about the Titan cards due to their "out of this world pricing"...the real concern could be Nvidia capping the performance of the "normal" GeForce range card for the sake of justifying Titans' premium prices...

I have been pretty neutral in terms of preference between AMD and Nvidia, but now I seriously hope that AMD would REALLY focusing more in improving single GPU performance instead of focusing on bolting two GPUs onto a single PCB and smack Nvidia with a big "down boy!" stick.

I mean the GTX600 series was launched around March last year if I remember correctly...the Titan was launched like almost exactly a year later, which should really had been the next gen card (GTX700 series) that replaces the GTX600 series range at similar prices brackets, not charging DOUBLE the amount for them...

Rofflay · 22 Apr 2013 at 09:05

Im saving my money until they release the kraken...

pgi947 · 22 Apr 2013 at 09:07

If it is indeed on the cards then nvidia know something about the 8970 we don't

LtMatt · 22 Apr 2013 at 09:10

8Pack pretty much said the 8970 would beat the titan, maybe this is why a titan 2 is coming out to ensure Nvidia keep the fastest card. Dread to think what it will cost though.

whyscotty · 22 Apr 2013 at 09:12

LtMatt said:
8Pack pretty much said the 8970 would beat the titan, maybe this is why a titan 2 is coming out to ensure Nvidia keep the fastest card. Dread to think what it will cost though.

Cost of a Titan 2 or a 8970 or both?