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4K gaming likely to be doable in 2013?

that's why I started the thread :)

Titan has got Display Port 1.2 Kaap, so yes, Titan can do 4K, now we just need displays that will take DP1.2, or a converter that'll take DP1.2 and spit it out in whatever connection type the display will take (or a driver update from Nvidia to support multi-DVI to a single monitor)

I can see display port 1.2 monitors always being more expensive than equivalent TV's, so DP 1.2 > HDMI 2.0 might be the best option in the short term, but we are probably 1 year away from having HDMI 2.0 displays too
 
that's why I started the thread :)

Titan has got Display Port 1.2 Kaap, so yes, Titan can do 4K, now we just need displays that will take DP1.2, or a converter that'll take DP1.2 and spit it out in whatever connection type the display will take (or a driver update from Nvidia to support multi-DVI to a single monitor)

I can see display port 1.2 monitors always being more expensive than equivalent TV's, so DP 1.2 > HDMI 2.0 might be the best option in the short term, but we are probably 1 year away from having HDMI 2.0 displays too

Thanks.:)

Next upgrade 1600p to 4k.:)
 
most of the devices released so far don't have DP, only DVI / HDMI
you then need to use 2 - 4 of them to get the picture up, which AMD and Nvidia cards don't like terribly well right now

the only device I know of due for release imminently is the Sharp 4K monitor, which does have DP 1.2 (single cable needed for 4K @ 60hz), but it is looking like it will still be £3k+ and it's 32"... personally I'd like something in the 36-42" range really

HDMI 2.0 isn't even a properly agreed standard yet, so transmitters/receivers are still a ways off


damn damn damn, i hate all this it's so complicated isn't it :cool:

because this isn't just the card, it's the tvs connections as well :eek::eek:, i never realised this, my guess is Panny will already know about this, but you wont see this 2.0 HDMI for at least another year and to be honest, no need for it until then.

but first of all, we will need our next cards to be 4k compatable, but what about the rest of my rig!!!!

is the mobo still ok/ still powerful enough...... no idea !

because have no doubt about this, when OLED/4K comes out.... you'll want it and probably both together, because that's the way us lot are:D:D:D

i'm very worried about this, because this looks like another new rig from scratch.... a definite RAM upgrade, interesting times ahead
 
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it isn't complicated, it is very simple Mal

HDMI is designed for and primarily used with TV's
Display Port is designed for and primarily used with PC's

you can usually get Display Port to HDMI adaptors, so at the point that TV's come with HDMI 2.0, you will be able to get an adaptor that will take your CURRENT graphics card and connect it to that OLED TV you want

end of

I don't know what you are worrying about, by the time that OLED TV you want comes out there'll be probably another 2 gens of graphics cards and CPU's out and you'll want to upgrade to play the latest games anyway
 
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it isn't complicated, it is very simple Mal

HDMI is designed for and primarily used with TV's
Display Port is designed for and primarily used with PC's

you can usually get Display Port to HDMI adaptors, so at the point that TV's come with HDMI 2.0, you will be able to get an adaptor that will take your CURRENT graphics card and connect it to that OLED TV you want

end of

I don't know what you are worrying about, by the time that OLED TV you want comes out there'll be probably another 2 gens of graphics cards and CPU's out and you'll want to upgrade to play the latest games anyway

thanks, yes there will deffo be new tech before OLED is cheap enough to buy.... because to be honest, OLED doesn't work properly yet anyway, so it wont be worth buying yet, the tech has a few problems to solve so i wouldn't trust any of the 1st and 2nd generation tvs

but i want a new HTPC case, so i'm going to start building a new rig anyway
 
PC Games market 20bn
Console games market 9bn

thanks andy i knew i was right, there are probably more mmo pc gamers than consoles let alone all the other game types, anyone who likes strategy games like forged alliance type game plays on pc cos they are total pants on consoles, i love this console vs pc argument, as console gamers think their ps3 that cost them £250 is better than the gpu that cost their m8 a grand, let alone the rest of the pc cost, you get what you pay for these days,
 

Dont forget those figures include mobile devices such as tablets, basicly anything with an X86 processor. Hardly high end pc gaming.

The quote below is from the report that pcworld is quoting from.

"Our basic definition of what constitutes a “gaming PC” is that it uses an x86 processor."
 
Dont forget those figures include mobile devices such as tablets, basicly anything with an X86 processor. Hardly high end pc gaming.

The quote below is from the report that pcworld is quoting from.

"Our basic definition of what constitutes a “gaming PC” is that it uses an x86 processor."

Those figures only include sales of GAMES, not hardware... if a game is made for PC but can also be played on an APU then it's still a PC game sale

WoW is low spec enough to be played on almost anything, should we discount it from being a PC game?
It loads on my tablet just fine

As for copies sold of console games; often digital sales and subscriptions are not counted as "a sale" as a number, and are only counted as revenue, so yes whilst console games sell more boxed retail copies, the pc gaming market as a whole is worth double, thanks to mmo's and f2p games and the like
 
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Those figures only include sales of GAMES, not hardware... if a game is made for PC but can also be played on an APU then it's still a PC game sale

WoW is low spec enough to be played on almost anything, should we discount it from being a PC game?
It loads on my tablet just fine

As for copies sold of console games; often digital sales and subscriptions are not counted as "a sale" as a number, and are only counted as revenue, so yes whilst console games sell more boxed retail copies, the pc gaming market as a whole is worth double, thanks to mmo's and f2p games and the like

What i'm getting at with the X86 quote is that the 20b figure also includes sales of things like browser games, android games and all the content people buy for F2p games etc (huge profits). All this isn't available to consoles at the moment and a lot of the devices couldn't even play a "proper" pc game such as bioshock infinite.
Should browser games such bejeweled etc actually be classed as a "pc game sale"?

Also publishing houses develop for the most profitable platform which is consoles, hence all the complaints of crappy pc ports we see everywhere.
 
What i'm getting at with the X86 quote is that the 20b figure also includes sales of things like browser games, android games and all the content people buy for F2p games etc (huge profits). All this isn't available to consoles at the moment and a lot of the devices couldn't even play a "proper" pc game such as bioshock infinite.
Should browser games such bejeweled etc actually be classed as a "pc game sale"?

Also publishing houses develop for the most profitable platform which is consoles, hence all the complaints of crappy pc ports we see everywhere.

nope, android doesn't run on x86 - well it can if you run an emulator or intel's SDK version, but there aren't any devices being sold with x86 + android afaik
it also doesnt say it includes browser games as these will run on anything without an x86

google surface pro bioshock infinite and then comeback and tell me mobile devices cant run new games :D :D

in regards of F2P games... it is hardly fair to not include some of the fastest growing titles from the figures just because they only exist on PC
 
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