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Core i7-4960X "Ivy Bridge-E" Roughly 10% Faster than i7-3970X: Early Tests
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Mine doesn't seem to
10-20% of the time when I start my PC with PCI-E set to 3.0 I get no display. Setting to PCI-E 2.0 solves the issue.
How does that work exactly, you open all the sealed cpu's, test them, and sell the worst clockers as brand new products to unknowing customers?
Or am I missing something
Mine doesn't seem to
10-20% of the time when I start my PC with PCI-E set to 3.0 I get no display. Setting to PCI-E 2.0 solves the issue.
You need to download a patch from Nvidia IIRC, as standard their drivers won't work in PCI-E 3.0 mode on an X79 board, I *think* their official word was somehting like X79 came out before PCI-E 3.0 was officially ratified and so as diff manufacturers may have gone slightly diff on the specs most boards are only draft 3.0 compliant or something odd like that, so to avoid issues Nvidia drivers won't do PCI-E 3.0 on X79 unless you download and run a batch file from Nvidia.
I had to do this to get my GTX670 FTW to use PCI-E 3.0 on my P9X79.
I think its like get boxed one. Test it. Sell as OEM
I am ok with that
The unsuspecting people buying 'brand new' OEM chips, that were pretested and so guaranteed to be bad clockers, won't be ok with that though
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It isn't a patch, the exe that NVidia provide just attempts to change the registry setting to enable pcie 3.0, but the exe rarely works (or at least I've never managed to get it to work with any sli setup)
If I set the key manually it works fine, however it is down to the chip you have, and might need a voltage bump over a normal overclok to get it stable again
NVidia drivers will do 3, you just need to set a switch in the registry
X79 definitely does support PCIe 3.0, and Sandy-E was supposed to, however stock chips on stock volts had some variability, so rather than intel suggest people try a voltage bump to get it stable, they went the route of just saying it was not officially supported
and nvidia followed suit
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The unsuspecting people buying 'brand new' OEM chips, that were pretested and so guaranteed to be bad clockers, won't be ok with that though
8 pack should be able to confirm this...
Binned chips will all be oem, so brown box items, those that don't meet 8 packs high standard will be dropped into the usual bundles and bare bones machines as they have been used.
Don't take it as all the rejected chips will be absolute poo, it's more they won't be doing 5ghz+ on lower voltages while boasting a strong imc. You'd still be getting upwards of 4.8ghz ddr2500 on rejected chips. Its the few extra mhz on core and memory that makes them special.
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I might finally upgrade from my old i7 990x. Even though it's not holding me back, I feel the urge to buy something a little more up to date.
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Looks rubbish tbh. Out of date already If that source is accurate.
I will definitely pay a premium for a good clocker.
The other good thing about this is if the slower CPUs go in systems that run at a lower speed, the cost of the system can be reduced to reflect this.
As long as the customer knows what they are getting, pay more for a faster CPU, get a reduction for a slower one. Graphics cards makers have been doing this for years, HD7970/GTX680 faster, HD7950/GTX670 slower.
The one big pitfall I can see is, if 8 Pack bins a CPU that will do say 4.8ghz easy, this does not mean that the customer will be able to get it to run at that speed due to their own or their systems limitations.
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How does that work exactly, you open all the sealed cpu's, test them, and sell the worst clockers as brand new products to unknowing customers?
Or am I missing something
no, they will be using all of the chips in pre-overclocked systems
the ones that will only do 4.4 or 4.5 will be sold in systems pre-overclocked to this level... good chips that do 5.0 will be sold in systems clocked to 5.0
they aren't going to be selling "tested to xx" chips on their own, only in pre-built systems, as I understand it
but, where as now if you buy a pre-overclocked system / bundle, you can take a punt on getting lucky and getting a 5.0 chip in a 4.5 system/bundle... what this says to me is that in the future if you buy a 4.5 you will definitely get a 4.5, there will be virtually no chance of getting lucky on a 5.0 and instead you will have to pay extra for the 5.0
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Mine doesn't seem to
10-20% of the time when I start my PC with PCI-E set to 3.0 I get no display. Setting to PCI-E 2.0 solves the issue.
You dont need to. Just leave it at AUTO. In OS enable the Nvidia Force gen 3 patch which forces gen 3 at driver level. This is the only way to get gen 3 working with an Nvidia 6 series GPU on the X79 platform.
Guys I only have time to test a small percentage of CPU we get in. I only test OEM system allocation CPU.
The best ones will be 8 Pack system CPU first or my bench ones and then the rest will be booked into stock at Guaranteed to run at speeds or bundles.
Currently I only test IMC strength for my systems only.
Its all dependent on the quality of silicon in hand but Pigi has the correct idea.
I never open retail boxes then sell as OEM. Retail remains sealed retail.
The best ones will be 8 Pack system CPU first or my bench ones and then the rest will be booked into stock at Guaranteed to run at speeds or bundles.
Currently I only test IMC strength for my systems only.
Its all dependent on the quality of silicon in hand but Pigi has the correct idea.
I never open retail boxes then sell as OEM. Retail remains sealed retail.