Overclocked E6700 to 3.6ghz vs Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz, worth the upgrade?

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I am about to make a decision on whether to upgrade or not. This is my current rig-
Intel e6700 overclocked to 3.6ghz
geforce 660 ti
asus p5n-e sli
4 gig ddr2 ram at 800 mhz

Even with the overclocks, I cannot play Far Cry 3 at a decent fps, it seems to average 18-35 fps. I am considering upgrading my cpu, ram and mobo to this;

intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz
Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz
Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard

Will the performance be notably better? Is the i5 processor noticeably better than the overclocked e6700? I must admit that the overclocked E6700 does not seem to play far cry 3 much faster than when it was at stock speeds, which is disappointing. With the upgrades, would I be able to get a solid 50-60 fps? I'm guessing it is my processor and ram letting my rig down, because the 660 ti is well capable of running Far Cry 3 smoothly.

Getting back into gaming/pc's after a few years out, so apologies for the newb questions!

Cheers :)
 
Lol, that's like asking if a Ferrari would be quicker than a Fiesta.
The performance increase will be immense.

I have a 660 OC (non TI) with a 2500K and I can play Far Cry 3 with 50 - 60FPS on high with the AA and AF dropped a little, so with a 3570K and a 660TI you would be looking at around the same sort of settings but perhaps a touch more AA/AF.
 
Appreciate the comments guys. I am concerned that the haswell chips + new mobos will cost me too much- I can get the aforementioned components for under 350, how much will a decent haswell set up cost do you think?
 
luke27586 said:
Appreciate the comments guys. I am concerned that the haswell chips + new mobos will cost me too much- I can get the aforementioned components for under 350, how much will a decent haswell set up cost do you think?
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We don't really know yet, there have been a few price hints and such, but i'm unsure.

Even if it is over your budget, Ivybridge prices should drop noticeably anyway. :)
 
Considering the LGA 1150 platform is replacing LGA 1155, it should be similiar price to a current IB setup. It would suprise me if there was a massive price difference...
 
tbh if you wait it is most likely going to be more expensive and you will likely only see a small increase maybe 5-10 fps if you upgrade now you will be set for the next 2-3 years before you need to upgrade the only real benefit from haswell wil be the new igpu
 
Leprechaun312 said:
tbh if you wait it is most likely going to be more expensive and you will likely only see a small increase maybe 5-10 fps if you upgrade now you will be set for the next 2-3 years before you need to upgrade the only real benefit from haswell wil be the new igpu
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5 - 10fps seems worth the wait to me.

It's not only that, it's the fact that it's on a new socket, and it will be more efficient and probably run cooler. There's no point upgrading from a dead socket to an end of life socket. It will just make upgrading substantially more expensive.
 
Also there is the possibility that the first generation, initial release chips/mobos may be more expensive and not as good as ones released 3-6 months after, and it would suck to splash out on something when i could have got a better deal had i waited. Also i got my 660ti in october (maybe a bad move looking back, should have upgraded cpu simultaneously), and i havnt been able to use it properly yet, so the quicker I upgrade the more value I can get from the card.
 
luke27586 said:
Also there is the possibility that the first generation, initial release chips/mobos may be more expensive and not as good as ones released 3-6 months after, and it would suck to splash out on something when i could have got a better deal had i waited. Also i got my 660ti in october (maybe a bad move looking back, should have upgraded cpu simultaneously), and i havnt been able to use it properly yet, so the quicker I upgrade the more value I can get from the card.
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Its only just over a month (i think?) until Hassy is released, so you could just wait and see..? :)

My only concern about people buying a new PC now this close to a new socket being released, is that it will become obsolete 3 or 4 weeks after they have bought it. On 1155 we have had Sandybridge and Ivybridge, and the 3570K & 3770K are the end of the line on 1155. If you want to upgrade past that you will have to replace the board as well.

Haswell and the 1150 socket will be released simultaneously, and then after Haswell reaches EOL, Broadwell will continue on the same socket :)

I bought my system a couple of months after the 2500K and the Z68 boards were released, i've had it two years. The performance level will be near identical to a brand new Z77 + 3570K system, so it is still a mid - high end machine in terms of performance, because I bought at the right sort of time :) It will last me until Skylake, when I will probably get the itch and upgrade my core system. A Haswell system should really last until whatever Intel come up with after Skymont. Which is a loooong way off :p
 
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Its only just over a month (i think?) until Hassy is released, so you could just wait and see..? :)

My only concern about people buying a new PC now this close to a new socket being released, is that it will become obsolete 3 or 4 weeks after they have bought it. On 1155 we have had Sandybridge and Ivybridge, and the 3570K & 3770K are the end of the line on 1155. If you want to upgrade past that you will have to replace the board as well.

Haswell and the 1150 socket will be released simultaneously, and then after Haswell reaches EOL, Broadwell will continue on the same socket :)

I bought my system a couple of months after the 2500K and the Z68 boards were released, i've had it two years. The performance level will be near identical to a brand new Z77 + 3570K system, so it is still a mid - high end machine in terms of performance, because I bought at the right sort of time :) It will last me until Skylake, when I will probably get the itch and upgrade my core system. A Haswell system should really last until whatever Intel come up with after Skymont. Which is a loooong way off :p
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So you think If I get a Haswell Mobo now, in a year or two I could just upgrade the chip, which would be way better than getting an Ivybridge chip right now and having zero percent upgrade potential without upgrading the mobo? I guess it depends on price; whether i could score a haswell system for around the same price as the ivybridge which matches or exceeds in performance.
 
luke27586 said:
So you think If I get a Haswell Mobo now, in a year or two I could just upgrade the chip, which would be way better than getting an Ivybridge chip right now and having zero percent upgrade potential without upgrading the mobo? I guess it depends on price; whether i could score a haswell system for around the same price as the ivybridge which matches or exceeds in performance.
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Thats basically it yeah :)

It does indeed depend on price and performance increase though you're quite right.

I don't think Haswell will be much more expensive than Ivy, if at all. But I just don't know til' it happens.
 
Lazder said:
If haswell becomes a flop... ivy/sandy will jump up... If i remember rightly, sandy bridge cpu`s jumped when news that ivy couldnt overclock that well appeared.
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I doubt Haswell will be a flop. Intel haven't had a flop in a very very long time.

A 3570K at 4.4GHz will perform similarly to a 2500K at 4.6GHz or so though, so the OC 'flop' wasn't a massive issue. Especially considering the other perks Ivybridge brought like PCI-E 3.0 support, a better IGP and the ability to de-lid :)
 
acme15 said:
I doubt Haswell will be a flop. Intel haven't had a flop in a very very long time.

A 3570K at 4.4GHz will perform similarly to a 2500K at 4.6GHz or so though, so the OC 'flop' wasn't a massive issue. Especially considering the other perks Ivybridge brought like PCI-E 3.0 support, a better IGP and the ability to de-lid :)
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well that information leveled out the ivy bridge.. but at first people were screaming that they couldn't get ivy past 4.6... So everyone started getting sandy`s, even here at ocUK for some time everyone advised getting sandy over ivy.
 
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