Family Members, World War 2, Etcetera...

I have a boring family, only one good story, but it is good!

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My great-grandad was a wing commander in WWII, he got shot down and taken to Stalag Luft III, which i'm told was the most secure camp the Germans had (and coincidentally where the great escape took place later in the war) He then helped his friends escape by building a wooden vaulting horse and they used it disguise a tunnel being dug out of the camp and his friends escaped! (He didn't of course, but eventually was released at the end of the war)

There was even a book written by one of the guys that escaped (The Wooden Horse) and it was made into a film!

Really wish I could have met him, but he died 4 years before I was born...

That's not a boring family, good bit of history there. I've read that book many times, it's a great read.
 
There are some amazing stories here. I'm glad I started the thread on a whim now!

I have an Ancestry account so if anyone wants to lookup any military records give me a shout.

What kind of records can you look up? I have my grandpa's service history, although it's not as illuminating as I'd like, sadly.

He joined the Royal Corps of Signals on 24th April 1939 and saw action in the NWEF's attack on German-held Norway. Interestingly, he was in Number 4 Independent Company which was trained to carry out sabotage and guerilla warfare against Jerry - they were the direct forerunners of the commandos. Then, he came home for a long time (2 years, 133 days) before embarking for North Africa with the BNAF on 23rd October 1942 as part of "B6 Signals Section". Then, his records show almost nothing until his death: "Died of wounds, North Africa Italy" - he was killed at the Battle of Monte Cassino and is buried in the war grave cemetery there. The story is that he was killed by shrapnel to the neck, but I have found no official mention of this.

His brother, Leonard, was also a Signalman. He wrote about some of the action he saw for the BBC, it's an interesting read:

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Signalman Leonard Forde
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Royal Corps of Signals.

As a 21-year-old wireless operator in the Royal Corps of Signals I was stationed in France when the Germans circumnavigated the much-vaunted Maginot Line and with the liberal use of tanks and dive bombers successfully advanced well into France. At our headquarters we were told to pack up in a hurry, and in a long convoy retired towards Paris. Several times our convoy was shot up by Stukas, and each time I dived unceremoniously under my wireless truck to avoid the bullets that hosed down from these most terrifying of fighter planes. For the next few days all was confusion. We were ordered to go south, to go to the west, but never to the north where the enemy had made great inroads after crossing the Belgium frontier, and all the time we lost more and more trucks as they broke down or were shot up by the dive bombers. Some idiot in Army HQ insisted that we maintain convoy discipline along the main roads, although they were full of refugees fleeing from the enemy advance, and by shooting them up, the Germans successfully caused the maximum confusion and disorganisation. After too much of this I became separated from the convoy and as far as possible drove my wireless vehicle (known as a ‘gin palace’) down minor roads to avoid the dive bombers which would appear suddenly in the sky above and scream down on us firing their multiple machine guns at anything that moved.

Life became a terrifying game of hide and seek. Somehow we got through Paris, and on to Chartres and Le Mans, where we set up shop again and tried to stem the rush of victorious German troops. My radio set chattered away in high speed morse, but I couldn’t help noticing with increasing fear that the signals coming strong over the air had German call signs.

We stayed in Le Mans a few days and then retreated again, this time towards Angers and then Nantes. It was useless trying to join up with our troops in the north as the enemy were reported to be in Argentan, meaning we were cut off from them. Personally I didn’t see how we could get out of this alive, for when enemy troops confront you face to face their fingers are so trigger-happy it’s touch and go whether they take you prisoner or just shoot you. Eventually however we reached the coast at San Nazaire and in common with everyone else I abandoned my vehicle after shooting holes in my radio set and ran down to the beach to join up with the hundreds of other men waiting there for ships to take them off.

Not having had any chance whatsoever to eat except the meagre rations that had appeared from time to time, I was ravenously hungry, and longed for a cigarette. Not far away from my queue on the beach was a huge pile of NAAFI goods, including crates and crates of cigarettes, and in desperation I joined several other men in trying to get at them,. But there were guarded by Military Policemen who waved us away. We insisted and the Red Caps drew their revolvers, so — very disgruntled — we got back to our places in the queue. Luckily for us that queue was several hundred yards from the NAAFI dump, which must have been mistaken just then by the Germans for a petrol dump. We saw the dive bombers coming in, (they were coming every few minutes), and we saw them wheel and dive down, releasing their rockets or whatever at the dump. We all threw ourselves flat on the ground and there was a terrific explosion as hundreds and thousands of cigarettes were blown sky-high. Some of us managed to grab a handful ….

I spent all night on the beach, absolutely convinced that I would not see the dawn because the Stukas came over again and again, firing indiscriminatingly at the queues on the beach and any vehicles they could see still on the roads. The next morning hope returned when the queues started to move forward, oh so slowly, toward the liner Lancastria, berthed at the end of the pier. Soldiers swarmed on it like flies. They moved up the gangplanks in a never-ending stream to disappear somewhere inside, and I saw with a sinking heart that my place in the queue was so far back that I would have no chance of getting aboard. there was a general groan from all of us watching as she cast off the ropes holding her to the quayside and slowly moved off.

Suddenly the Stukas returned. One of them dived down and released two bombs. One fell among the soldiers crowded onto the stern, and the other dropped right down the funnel, blowing the ship apart. Hundreds and hundreds of men must have been killed or seriously wounded in that moment and nameless bits of debris were hurled into the air to drop down all around us.

It was nightfall before I myself was able to get away. I waded out to a rowing boat with a couple of dozen others and we rowed out to clamber aboard another ship anchored further out. I was too tired to enquire its name but I give its crew full marks for braving the rain of death **** showered down on them from field guns on shore and dive bombers above in order to rescue us. That May day in 1940 was filled with a mixture of hope and fear as we gradually drew away from the beach and took to the open sea. It was a long way to England and apart from bombers there was the additional hazard of submarines.

All night we were at sea but eventually we drew in to Weymouth harbour. It was a sorry lot that lined up on the quayside once we had disembarked. We were all of us dog tired, very few had kept their rifles or revolvers — I certainly hadn’t. Volunteers from a church organisation dished out hot food, and I could have kissed every one of them in sheer joy because I was still alive and safe.

By nightfall we were billeted in a girls school, the girls having had to get out in a hurry to make room for us, and I well remember the mixed feelings we all had in spite of our tiredness when we spotted an electric bell push upon which hung a notice:

“IF IN NEED OF A MISTRESS RING THIS BELL!”

Being young it didn’t take too long for me to recover my normal high sprits which came to the fore when we heard the news that the Germans had gobbled up France and Belgium and were advancing in Crete and North Africa. In a spirit of mischief while on night duty I wrote in Gothic characters on the company notice board:

NEXT WEEK’S WAGES WILL BE PAID IN REICHMARKS!

War or no war, this cost me fourteen days CB!!

Leonard Forde

I have a battered old butcher bayonet and a (possibly) rare trench periscope at home, but I have no idea who brought them back.
 
Reading these storys makes me realise our Generation and the one before are a bunch of whiney dossers and don't have half the balls our grandparents had :D

That's because we don't have as much to defend as they did.

A bit of pride in ones country or at least in their community goes a long way. Certainly further than the fractured society we live in today.

What could possibly ever unite England? I saw England, because everyone else in Britain wants out. p


Oh and a relevant video

 
After his home in Kings Cross was bombed for the second time, my Grandfather joined up illegally at the age of 16, and took part in the D-day landings and went on to help liberate Bergan-Belsen.

Great idea for a thread, will read it all and add more later when I have time.
 
Found a further Imperial War Museum audio file on my Great Uncle's recollection of the landings on Juno Beach as a seaman on a LST. He also witnessed the aircraft taking over gliders on the morning of D-day.

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80015884

After serving on the Curacoa he also served on LSTs at Salerno and Anzio and one of his LST's sank off the coast of North Africa, prior to landings in Sicily as troops accidentally set fire to vehicles aboard and it had to be abandoned.
 
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My Grandfather was in WW2 in the eastern front as part of the royal signals. He was in Burma for most of the time. Mainly fighting the Japs. He spent 25 years in the army and ended up with a MBE. I have his citation from the Queen in the hallway to my house. People who come into our house always mention it. He made it to the grand old age of 93. If I could be 10% the man he was I would be a happy chappy. All the stories he told me lead to a massive respect by me for the Gurkhas as well.
 
Great thread :)

A late uncle of mine fought and was captured in Burma and spent the war as a POW under the Japanese for around 4 years. Never talked about it until later in life when one day he went into a little more detail. The brutalisation by the Japanese soldiers/officers who saw all POW's as lower than the lowest animal. Regular beatings and conditions that saw many die especially with the constant danger of Malaria.

Within the camp they would regularly dispose of bodies. They would be asked to stand up on a slope while the Japanese brought in a truck. They would then instruct the POW's to come down and throw the dead onto the back of the truck (I assume with a few POW's to help unload and dump the bodies)

Other dangers included the local wildlife where he gave particular mention to the scorpians and the need to check the floor and what footware they may have had. He saw many fellow soldiers killed by the Japanese due to the conditions and their senseless out-right hatred of the POW's.

His health was badly affected due to malnutrition (many simply starved to death) where even his eyesight was damaged. Having survived 4 years at the hands of the Japanese he still lived into his 80's, he was one tough bloke.



Another uncle also said very little about the war except that he was part of the crew in a British tank. Oddest thing was that he said it wasn't unusal when traversing open ground, to jam the tank in gear and walk behind it. Reason being tank in an open field or stretch of road, was the first thing that was targeted. Saw too many people die in tanks never knowing where the shell even came from.
 
There are some amazing stories here. I'm glad I started the thread on a whim now!



I have a battered old butcher bayonet and a (possibly) rare trench periscope at home, but I have no idea who brought them back.

I don't understand his paragraph about the Lancastria as that liner wasn't sunk until June 1940
 
My grandfather was a motorcycle (as they were) rider during WWII. He started doing Scotland to London runs back and forth, and was eventually shipped over to France to carry messages there. Somewhere, at some point, he was taken off the bike by a trip wire across the road and was pretty badly injured, he was eventually recovered by British infantry after hiding and ferried to, again, somewhere in England. That's where he met my gran, then a local girl who had not long become a nurse during the war. After the war they both moved up near Aberdeen and married and had a family.

I should really try and look out more information, but there's not a lot of my family left so it's all from what I picked up as a child.
 
I see what you mean Django. He must have got the name confused with another ship. By the way, if anyone has photographs of stuff, posting them would be interesting. Sadly, all of mine are up north at the moment.
 
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Love this sort of stuff. My great granddad fought in the Great War (he lived to 103) and my mothers father fought in WW2, getting home after being taken out by a German sniper whilst collecting water on a French farm early in the war.

I have currently been doing a lot of reading about the Navy from the early 20th century so would be fascinated to hear stories of peoples family who served on the big battle ships.
 
Here are a few things I have.
My Grandad was an Air Mechanic in the Royal Navy aboard HMS Tracker which was a Lease-Lend Aircraft Carrier.
It mainly saw action in the Atlantic and Pacific as an Escort Carrier for convoys, but was also present for D-Day.
He had quite an interesting tour from what I know and visited America and Russia. There are some autographs somewhere he collected in Hollywood!
He saw several aircraft have near misses or aborted landings. I'll dig out some 'official' photos he gave me. I'll put them a page somewhere if anyone wants to see them?

This is his medals - just standard issue but still special for me:
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These are the flashproof gloves he had for manning anti aircraft guns:

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This is his dress uniform hat and belt along with the flashproof balaclava:

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This interesting. A certificate that was issued to the crew when the ship crossed the Equator:

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I Also have his call up, report logs and discharge papers but those are a bit personal for here.

Here are some photos of my Great Grandad who served in WWI I cannot remember the full history but the trench photo is taken in Belgium and was actually a 'publicity' shot.

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I also have an original SRD rum jar like the one in the trench photo.
 
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My 'hero' Grandad turned out to be a fake.
My Uncle started a family tree a couple of years ago and ended up finding out that his Dad was a 100% con artist and because he'd been in prison was never in WW2 but came home pretending he was.
We knew he'd got kids all over the place but just found out his first kid was at age 15 and when he got re-married in 1942 his first child was 3 years older than his new wife.

HOWEVER, my other Uncle is Jack Baskeyfield VC.
 
That's not a boring family, good bit of history there. I've read that book many times, it's a great read.

Great, nice to see someone who's read the book! :)

I should probably have said the rest of my family is boring in comparison, that would be more accurate!
 
Some great stories here. My grandad served in the Navy, mainly on minesweepers and a destroyer (can't remember the names) and was posted in the med. He has a few photos of site seeing in Egypt and Rome :p

I had a great uncle in the desert rats serving as a driver and another great uncle was in the infantry and was one of the first troops to discover Belsen, for obvious reasons he never spoke about it.

Another faimly member, might have been my great great grandad (i'll have to ask my mum) landed in Arkhangelsk in 1917 in an attempt to rescue the Tsar from the Russian Revolution
 
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Great-great-uncle in the Boer War. Great-great-uncle in WWI (survived the Somme).

Paternal great-grandfather in WWII: chief stoker on board the escort carrier HMS Khedive (D62).

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Paternal grandfather in WWII: artilleryman in the British Army of the Rhine.

Maternal grandfather in WWII: gunnery officer on board the submarine HMS Taciturn.

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The only one I knew personally was my maternal grandfather, and he refused to talk about his experiences in WWII. All I know is that for several decades after it was over, he would still wake up at night screaming, in a cold sweat.
 
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