Would an independant Scotland be forced to join the Euro?

Macro · 1 May 2013 at 15:27

eddiemcgarrigle said:
Oh the smears, half-truths and downright lies of the (not so) Better Together campaign is strong here.

Hello, is that Mr Pot? There's a Mr Kettle on the phone for you

D.P. · 1 May 2013 at 16:23

I haven't bothered to vote in a UK election since I was 18 but when the referendum comes around I will be sure to provide my postal vote (assuming expat scots can vote remotely).

Really feel the referendum shouldn't really be a public vote, or at the minimum age restricted to 21/25. Too many young dumb non-educated delinquents with not a single iota of an idea about the actual politics, just a preconceived middle finger to the English.

Castiel · 1 May 2013 at 16:24

D.P. said:
I haven't bothered to vote in a UK election since I was 18 but when the referendum comes around I will be sure to provide my postal vote (assuming expat scots can vote remotely).

Really feel the referendum shouldn't really be a public vote, or at the minimum age restricted to 21/25. Too many young dumb non-educated delinquents with not a single iota of an idea about the actual politics, just a preconceived middle finger to the English.

You need to live in Scotland and be a registered voter to vote in the referendum. They are also allowing 16/17 year olds to vote.

platypus · 1 May 2013 at 16:27

Of course they are, it will give them more people who, as DP says, wants to stick a preconceived middle finger at the English.

yonderblue · 1 May 2013 at 16:36

HummuH1 said:
And you think we'll be better off with The Toad running the show? I think not.

The sooner the vote comes and we can put all the independence rubbish behind us the better.

The vote for independence is not for vote the SNP. The SNP are just letting people in Scotland decide if they want to continue the status quo or for Independence. Vote yes next year and in 2016 you can vote for who ever new or old party's you want with the manifesto that you agree with and party that you want in power not one at Westminster you never voted for.

Vote no and Scotland will be history there will be no more devolved powers, More likely powers will be removed and Scotland will be forced into the more privatisation of the state that the Conservatives, Labour and Libdem's are all in favour of.

D.P. · 1 May 2013 at 16:49

Castiel said:
You need to live in Scotland and be a registered voter to vote in the referendum. They are also allowing 16/17 year olds to vote.

So I can vote in a General Election but not in this referendum, what a farce.

grumpysculler · 1 May 2013 at 16:53

yonderblue said:
Vote no and Scotland will be history there will be no more devolved powers, More likely powers will be removed and Scotland will be forced into the more privatisation of the state that the Conservatives, Labour and Libdem's are all in favour of.

Sauce please.

Or perhaps that's nonsense? I reckon that if/when a no vote happens we will get some of the other powers that have been talked about but either never activated or which haven't yet been devolved.

Castiel · 1 May 2013 at 16:56

D.P. said:
So I can vote in a General Election but not in this referendum, what a farce.

Quite. It doesn't even allow a Scot living in the rest of the UK to vote. You must be a resident of Scotland, this means that any from another country can vote as long as they are on the electoral role in Scotland, but the Scot who lives 2 miles south of the border cannot.

You can move back to Scotland and register to vote, but that is it.

atpbx · 1 May 2013 at 17:02

Strife212 said:
Because it's part of the European union rules that member states have to use the Euro?

They would need to apply to become part of the European union first, after they were accepted (which would be a formality) they would be using the euro as there wouldn't be a choice.

Biohazard · 1 May 2013 at 18:27

Elixir said:
I will?

Apparently so.

Looks like he was a fortune teller after all.

Biohazard · 1 May 2013 at 18:28

platypus said:
Not to mention more national pride if its held on the anniversary of Bannockburn. Alex Salmonds motives may be transparent and facile, but lets hope enough people don't fall for it.

I look forward to the UK celebrating the start of World War One and the mass slaughter of a whole generation.

Biohazard · 1 May 2013 at 18:32

D.P. said:
I haven't bothered to vote in a UK election since I was 18 but when the referendum comes around I will be sure to provide my postal vote (assuming expat scots can vote remotely).

Really feel the referendum shouldn't really be a public vote, or at the minimum age restricted to 21/25. Too many young dumb non-educated delinquents with not a single iota of an idea about the actual politics, just a preconceived middle finger to the English.

You left the country so you have no right in deciding its future unfortunately. You will not get a postal vote.

Your tirade against young adults could equally be turned to people older than that age group, and I think the old '**** the English' thing is a bit last century don't you?

kitch9 · 1 May 2013 at 18:33

yonderblue said:
The vote for independence is not for vote the SNP. The SNP are just letting people in Scotland decide if they want to continue the status quo or for Independence. Vote yes next year and in 2016 you can vote for who ever new or old party's you want with the manifesto that you agree with and party that you want in power not one at Westminster you never voted for.

Vote no and Scotland will be history there will be no more devolved powers, More likely powers will be removed and Scotland will be forced into the more privatisation of the state that the Conservatives, Labour and Libdem's are all in favour of.

Got anymore hyperbole to go with that soup? Jesus.

Biohazard · 1 May 2013 at 18:34

platypus said:
Of course they are, it will give them more people who, as DP says, wants to stick a preconceived middle finger at the English.

Or want the decisions that will effect the rest of their lives taken closer to them.

Is that the same as sticking the finger up to someone? I'm unsure..

Biohazard · 1 May 2013 at 18:35

kitch9 said:
Got anymore hyperbole to go with that soup? Jesus.

That's certainly how it is looking, and not forgetting the '79 & 1980's previous example of 'jam tomorrow'.

arknor · 1 May 2013 at 18:43

What special relationship?! I can't see our relationship with the states being appreciably weakened by 'losing' Scotland, and Trident not being in Scottish waters would be a non-issue.

Neither can I the airbases the americans use are all ones in english territory ? so I'm confident our relationship would be the same as it has always been and I wouldn't call it "special" anyway that was just labour propaganda back when tony blair wanted to be americas bum chum

StriderX · 1 May 2013 at 18:58

Please stop discussing why younger people should be allowed any say in their future and implying that they don't know what politics is, when even the ministers that run the country don't, is laughable to the point of masked hysteria.

The issue is over with, they get their opinion stated, just like any other "moron".

:rolleyes:

RDM · 1 May 2013 at 19:36

I think it is a bit sad that the arguments from both sides seem to revolve around economics. Choosing to be independent on the basis of what option you think makes you richer seems a touch crass.

Biohazard · 1 May 2013 at 19:42

RDM said:
I think it is a bit sad that the arguments from both sides seem to revolve around economics. Choosing to be independent on the basis of what option you think makes you richer seems a touch crass.

They revolve around a lot more than economics, but it's interesting that it's crass when Scotland has regularly been beaten with the 'English subsidy' stick to the point of exasperation. Is it any wonder that economics plays a significant enough part anyway, given that it is clearly an important pillar of civic society all the same.

The Treasury claim that Independence will cost a Scot £1 per year, the Scottish Government claim that people would benefit between £500-800.

A lot of undecided opinions in long term polls seem quite pivotal around this issue, with a significant swing towards Yes if people are better off to the tune of £500 a year. Or a bus fare per day, roughly.

RDM · 1 May 2013 at 20:06

Biohazard said:
They revolve around a lot more than economics, but it's interesting that it's crass when Scotland has regularly been beaten with the 'English subsidy' stick to the point of exasperation. Is it any wonder that economics plays a significant enough part anyway, given that it is clearly an important pillar of civic society all the same.

I thought I made it clear enough that I think it crass either way?

Biohazard said:
The Treasury claim that Independence will cost a Scot £1 per year, the Scottish Government claim that people would benefit between £500-800.

A lot of undecided opinions in long term polls seem quite pivotal around this issue, with a significant swing towards Yes if people are better off to the tune of £500 a year. Or a bus fare per day, roughly.

Don't you think that is a little disappointing? The price of freedom is £500.