Diesel hot hatch?
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well i was thinking the type r ep3, same as mine but more grunt, decent on fuel too.
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No. Not unless it's not the conventional description of around town.
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In defense of diesels they are very cheap to tune.
I started playing around with them with an old Rover 75 2.0 (BMW Lump). For hundred and fifty quid I raised the bhp from its de-tuned 110bhp to 150bhp using a Synergy box.
My latest diesel I had remapped from 120bhp to 160bhp for a tad over £200.
Hatches can be done even cheaper with something like an Italian box. Not the best way of doing it but for £60 the gains are massive.
Not saying that diesel is better than petrol or anything like that. But if you do get one and get bored for peanuts in the car tuning world you can get amazing results.
Actually I have an Italian box for a Fiat/Saab/Vauxhall 1.9jtd 8v free of charge to a good home if anyone is interested.
I started playing around with them with an old Rover 75 2.0 (BMW Lump). For hundred and fifty quid I raised the bhp from its de-tuned 110bhp to 150bhp using a Synergy box.
My latest diesel I had remapped from 120bhp to 160bhp for a tad over £200.
Hatches can be done even cheaper with something like an Italian box. Not the best way of doing it but for £60 the gains are massive.
Not saying that diesel is better than petrol or anything like that. But if you do get one and get bored for peanuts in the car tuning world you can get amazing results.
Actually I have an Italian box for a Fiat/Saab/Vauxhall 1.9jtd 8v free of charge to a good home if anyone is interested.
We will never agree on this oneI owned one, I got it regularly, that's enough for me.
I simply don't beleive you and never will
- I suspect your maths was either wrong or your idea of town driving isn't quite the same as everyone elses I spent the day driving around town in a 2012 BMW 320d EfficientDynamics last week. 30mpg. That was actually around town. Short trips. Traffic lights. Queues of traffic, etc.
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I'm not sure what you're asking?
Sorry, I mean is there a list of hot hatch requirements somewhere that specifically excludes diesels?
Anyway how's that petrol hot hatch treating you?
It's thirsty, it's eating it's own clutch and every prod of the loud pedal results in torque steer but I absolutely love it. Worth every penny.
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[TW]Fox;24240363 said:I simply don't beleive you and never will
I spent the day driving around town in a 2012 BMW 320d EfficientDynamics last week. 30mpg. That was actually around town. Short trips. Traffic lights. Queues of traffic, etc.
Yeah 30mpg sounds pretty awful. I drive a mixture of mainly rural roads and quite a bit of traffic in Horsham since all the 10,000 extra houses are being built. My MPG on my 1.9 diesel is now down to an average of 38mpg from 42mpg. quite a lot when you think about savings from diesel.
But my terribly thirsty Alfa V6 is down from about 25mpg average to about 22mpg.
Diesels do save on fuel but in my mind lose out far more if the conditions do not favour. Lets face it most petrols can achieve silly MPG on a run, sometimes more than diesels.
Taking this all into account diesels are now out selling petrols whether we like it or not. I worry that petrol cars may even demand a premium in future as they get rarer.
I know there is a massive anti-diesel feeling on here and the advice is very good, however the reason people are buying them them is they are so fed up with are ridiculous fuel costs. If people took solely total running costs and reliability into account when they bought a new car, I would imagine we would have a country full of Honda's.
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No way I would chop in a Ford petrol for a Ford diesel. If you want the strongest arguments against diesels then Fords are probably the best example.
Such a shame as they make good petrol engines but have never seemed to make something that works properly and is reliable in diesel.