i7 3770k or i5 3570k?

[R2dbag]

Hey, I really don't know which to get. I know Haswell is coming out next month and I'm not planning on getting my new rig before then. Basically all I want to know is which should I get... I heard next gen games will utilise hyperthreading on some sites then I here they may not even be compatible with it on other sites which basically rules out an i7 as this rig is going to be purely for gaming.

I would like an i5 obviously because it'll save me a nice handful of cash but will it be unusable for new games at the end of the year? In which case the i7 will be a better option because its more future proof.

Cheers

Edit: Not going to be overclocking my CPU or GPU by the way. Also will not be using SLI.

 

[jms198]

I suppose it boils down to hyperthreading. If you're not OCing then get a non K chip for less. You have a 400mhz OC on most boards bringing it up to speed. A 3470 or 3550 or something would be fine. Onboard will be worse.

 

[R2dbag]

Exactly... Will it be of use at the end of the year for the next generation of games or remain utterly useless for gamers...

 

[jms198]

No idea but I really doubt it. A 3 yr old graphics card will play the latest games; maybe not with all the eye candy.

 

[R2dbag]

My friend has basically told me that even when the next gen comes out the CPU will count for nothing, the focus will be on how good your GPU is.

 

[Smoogels]

A 3570k will not suddenly become weak at the end of the year. I suspect it will be seen as decent for a few more years yet I suspect hyperthreading will not be that helpful in the next few years either. It will take time for the games to exceed the power of a good quad like the 3570K in single GPU set ups.

 

[Gibbo3771]

Literally no reason to choose a 3770 over a 3570 if you are gaming, unless you are playing highly cpu intensive games, you are wasting money.

Have a look at benches, in most games the 3770 is within half a frame of the 3570, 1fps more at best.

If you are using photoshop or any sort of editing/compiling software, 3770 would be a better choice.

 

[~>Dg<~]

hyperthreading is mostly bs in games. yes i said it

look at games that actually make a big advantage of it there arnt any.

bf3 hype from some yet when benched less than one fps different

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

If you are purely gaming on a single GPU, then there will be very little between a 3570k and a 3770k. Though it does have to be said that my minimum FPS has increased on the BF3 MP since moving to a 3770k from a 3570k. I also do a fair bit of screen recording, which is where having the extra threads comes in handy.

 

[wazza300]

gimme multithreading anyday,plus ive seen a lot of 3770k chips clock better and use less voltage then many 3570k's

 

[apeksdiver]

Developers won't write software that relies on a hyperthreading CPU as it would write off the majority of the market, the performance gains are marginal at best so go for a 3570.

 

[apeksdiver]

gimme multithreading anyday,plus ive seen a lot of 3770k chips clock better and use less voltage then many 3570k's

He's not looking to overclock but nice observation as I want either a 3770K or 4770K

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

Developers won't write software that relies on a hyperthreading CPU as it would write off the majority of the market, the performance gains are marginal at best so go for a 3570.

However there is a big difference between 'relies on' and 'can utilise'. It is in developers interest to write software that can utilise hyperthreading enabled CPUs to do the same job faster. As for the majority not using hyperthreading, every current gen Intel CPU actually does use hyperthreading with the exception of the Pentium and Celeron CPUs (both laptop and desktop) and i5 desktop CPUs (all laptop i5s use HT).

 

[setter]

Though it does have to be said that my minimum FPS has increased on the BF3 MP since moving to a 3770k from a 3570k. I also do a fair bit of screen recording, which is where having the extra threads comes in handy.

I noticed that too in bf3. My old 920 @4.2ghz had better minimums than my 3570k. It's even more noticeable in a multi gpu setup. On the 920 with sli'd 470's, turning off ht resulted in a noticeable drop in performance. The cpu became a bit of a bottleneck. The 3570k is still a pretty decent chip though for any modern single gpu.

gimme multithreading anyday,plus ive seen a lot of 3770k chips clock better and use less voltage then many 3570k's

Noticed that an awful lot lately, and even with ht on theyre running a bit cooler. My own 3570k is a bit of a lemon in the oc'ing stakes, needing a fair bit of vcore to hit 4.5ghz.