Consumer electronics....what has happened

Thats what I was going to say, don't expect Pioneer Kuro performanace from a cheapo Panasonic telly bought from a supermarket!

Many electronic items are made to a certain price point these days, as the market demands it - so quality suffers.
 
I'd say they were more run of the mill products bought from the cheapest place possible that pay minimum wage to everyone.

Panasonic and Samsung are high end manufacturers. It may not be a high end model as that's entirely different.

If anything I think places like Tesco makenitnessy for you to return electronic items. They were fine when I had to return an Xbox for example. The fact they pay minimum wage or are a super market is completely irrelevant in my opinion.
 
I had a problem with the asus vg278h, one dead pixel and horrible light bleed from the edges of the screen. My previous Samsung 24B that I bought in 2007 had none of these problems. Felt like a step backward how can LED monitors get worse not better??
 
I went through 4 Samsung Led TV's last month, each one had different levels of things wrong with them, bleed/clouding/high pitched buzzing, i too gave up eventually ill stick with my old 32" CRT for a bit longer lol.
 
Thats what I was going to say, don't expect Pioneer Kuro performanace from a cheapo Panasonic telly bought from a supermarket!

Many electronic items are made to a certain price point these days, as the market demands it - so quality suffers.

This.

People want quantity over quality these days (as far as TVs are concerned).


Panasonic and Samsung are high end manufacturers. It may not be a high end model as that's entirely different.

I wouldn't class Samsung as high end as far as televisions go. I'd class Panasonic as 'the better of the crop', but again, still not high end.
 
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Imagine a world where things were made to last and be high quality, where companies shared ideas and worked together to improve things for the greater good, we could have products made to do the job well while still being reasonably priced, competition is good when it improves things, not when it's all about squeezing out the most profit at the cost of quality.

A good example is speakers, this is very old tech yet we still see poor quality cheap stuff around, there's absolutely no excuse not to have perfect speakers and earphones now, the designs and materials are all simple and well known, we can have very high quality for a reasonable price.
 
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Samsung have been knocking out cheap and nasty phones for years that are not very cheap in price for years - they focused on bleeding edge tech specs and don't care about anything else. And who can blame them? With this strategy they sell millions of units. Blame the people who buy them.
 
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Samsung have been knocking out cheap and nasty phones for years that are not very cheap in price for years - they focused on bleeding edge tech specs and don't care about anything else. And who can blame them? With this strategy they sell millions of units. Blame the people who buy them.

Oh yes. It's how they single-handedly dominated the Android market and kept pace with Apple.

I've used a Galaxy S3 and 4 and both feel like crap compared to the cheaper Nexus 4. But everybody gets a S3/4 for some reason. If I was paying S4 prices I'd have an iPhone.

As for televisions, well I've always had Sonys. Never had a problem with them.
 
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Nonsense, everything he mentioned are high end manufacturers. It's irrelevant where they were bought from.

But he is returning them for a refund.

It's not like he's buying Bang & Olufsen or Vertu gear and putting them in a cupboard when they don't work.

I wouldn't class Samsung as high end as far as televisions go. I'd class Panasonic as 'the better of the crop', but again, still not high end.

They both cater to low-high end, but Panasonic currently make some of the best (if not the best) you can buy.
 
I thought that dead pixels were a thing of the past? I was 1st line tech support at a PC shop (not a competitor as it was for special needs) from 2003 to 2009. We started introducing TFT screens around 2004 time and I had plenty of support calls for dead pixels. Very frustrating where dead pixel policies of some manufacturers say that you have to have 5 or even 8 dead before an RMA was honoured and I got plenty of ear bashings from customers because of that. By 2007 though, dead pixels were pretty much a thing of the past. Just the odd call here and there.

Printers are by far the worst. Customers and printers don't mix!
 
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