100 Miles/Day - Recommend a car please?!

I do 100 per day in a tdi Ibiza and do 515miles sometimes slightly more on around 38 litres. So 61mpg ish. Real fill up figures not what the trip computer tells me. That said its the last diesel I will ever own. It's never given me any issues but I will not run a dpf diesel.

100 mile a day is the most unlikely scenario for a DPF to fail.

They fail when they are not given a chance to regenerate like short journeys.

Even if one did fail you can get them reconditioned for £200-£250 now. More and more places have them as exchange units over the shelf now.
 
Just to chip back in and say although I don't have much to add to conversation, I'm reading and taking note of all replies, so thanks for the input everyone!
 
100 mile a day is the most unlikely scenario for a DPF to fail.

They fail when they are not given a chance to regenerate like short journeys.

Even if one did fail you can get them reconditioned for £200-£250 now. More and more places have them as exchange units over the shelf now.

Yeah although it's not just the failures it's the must lower fuel economy (than the older PD) making a petrol engine much closer and more viable for the runs I do. Even on my 50 mile run on A roads a DPF isn't a great option for getting a constant regen done. My liftshare has a DPF car and a reader and we can see the loading on his. Even with the 50 mile run he still has to take his car out and force a regen himself, something the average Joe wouldn't know about or be able to do.

Maybe once my PD engine is run into the ground there willl be better options, hopefully. :)
 
I did 120 miles per day for nearly a year in my 04 mk4 astra and it was fine. At one stage after that I did 60 miles per day for 2 days per week then 260 miles per day for 3 days for 3 months solid and you know what it was still fine.

The car is still going too, albeit the daily commute is now only a few miles. Helped it had the Sri sports seats. Even as a 1.8 petrol I got 40 mpg on a run and after the year based on fuel and servicing costs a diesel would not have offset the additional costs over 3 years based on the same mileage.

Except that, in your case, it wasn't the length of work that ended in any of those cases, it was the fact you couldn't hack the commute, something I would testify towards the poor choice of car for such a feat ;)
 
Ok maybe the older x30d might give the odd problem, but the newer 320d's are good I think just a relaible as a mondeo/passat/vectra

I think you're a little mistaken here. The 320d E90 unit has proven to be quite possibly the most unreliable unit for some time (odd given it's not far removed from the E46 days)
 
Yeah although it's not just the failures it's the must lower fuel economy (than the older PD) making a petrol engine much closer and more viable for the runs I do. Even on my 50 mile run on A roads a DPF isn't a great option for getting a constant regen done. My liftshare has a DPF car and a reader and we can see the loading on his. Even with the 50 mile run he still has to take his car out and force a regen himself, something the average Joe wouldn't know about or be able to do.

Maybe once my PD engine is run into the ground there willl be better options, hopefully. :)

Sounds like their is something wrong with his car rather a symptom of having a DPF. When you talk about regeneration is the dash light on? If it is then he has a problem with either a sensor or the DPF itself.

DPF's regenerate when you are at steady speed, and take between 5-10 minutes normally. This should happen when they are about 35% full, most people will not even know it is regenerating (every 300-500 miles). That is active regeneration, DPF's passively regenerate all the time when they reach operating temperature.

The light will come on when it is above 45% full and normal regeneration has been unsuccessful. It may need a high speed blast of around 5-40 minutes or a diesel treatment to help the regeneration. The light is warning of impending failure.

There are also two methods of regeneration. One method actually has an additive in a small tank next too the fuel tank. This is topped up about ever 70,000 miles during servicing. The other method is just allowing the dpf to heat up and the soot to be burnt to ash, often a puffs of white smoke may be observed.

A lot of people do not realise either that if you have any warning lights on the dpf regeneration is cancelled by the ECU to avoid damage. During servicing as well many ECU's need to have the oil degradation reset to tell the ecu the oil is clean enough for regeneration to take place, this is often missed in servicing by independents.

Sorry I have a brilliant diesel mechanic and am helping him in some new business ventures some of which are dpf linked. There is a lot of myths and legends regarding DPF's. One problem that can be a problem is diesels with very high 6th gears which may not allow the engine to get to the regeneration speed or temperature.

My DPF car has now 64k and 7.5 years old. I have never had the regeneration light on or noticed any drop in MPG. I have once or twice felt it might be in regeneration when driving around country lanes. A very small drop in power was it.
 
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Ambitious is too kind. Impossible is more likely.

I've averaged 51.3MPG so far with ownership of my far more efficient ecodiesel, and even that isn't involving much motorway at all. If I were regularly doing 70MPH on the motorway, that average would drop somewhat.

My 28 mile commute is almost all motorway. I stick the thing on cruise at 70mph and get 55mpg average over a tank.

Alfa 156 1.9 jtd.

Not ambitious

B@
 
My 28 mile commute is almost all motorway. I stick the thing on cruise at 70mph and get 55mpg average over a tank.

Alfa 156 1.9 jtd.

Not ambitious

B@

I was blown away with how good those 156 diesel are on fuel. i went on a big road trip with one and it constantly surprised me at how hard you had to work it to get the MPG to drop.

The trip computer was a little optimistic though.
 
My 28 mile commute is almost all motorway. I stick the thing on cruise at 70mph and get 55mpg average over a tank.

Alfa 156 1.9 jtd.

Not ambitious

B@

The 1.9JTD is a gem. I don't have it in my Alfa as I have the V6 petrol but I have one in my Fiat.

At 70mph I get around 52mpg despite being a relatively tall car with the weight of the 4WD.

Only criticism is they don't sound as refined as many other marques diesels and in classic Alfa style have had their cam belt intervals lowered.

Saying that they are tough and even people who have had cambelt failure have got away with a couple of broken rockers rather than bent valves etc.
 
My 28 mile commute is almost all motorway. I stick the thing on cruise at 70mph and get 55mpg average over a tank.

Alfa 156 1.9 jtd.

Not ambitious

B@

funny that, i drove an Alfa 159 1.9JTDM for 3 years and covered 60,000 miles. It averaged 35mpg (economy was never a consideration though).
 
funny that, i drove an Alfa 159 1.9JTDM for 3 years and covered 60,000 miles. It averaged 35mpg (economy was never a consideration though).

My 1.9JTD does mostly town driving with an odd run. The lowest I have achieved average was 38mpg.

I am glad you said this as it is something else to look into with this project I am helping with. I am sure you wont be the only one so it would be interesting to see why.

Can I ask what sort of driving you did, town, motorway etc and driving style?
 
Everything really, lot of my though. Driving was hard to be honest, I get all fuel paid through work (pay tax) so never cared. Mway speeds usually 85-90, accel quickly upto speed.

It's an honest representation. Lovely car though, and very comfy for long runs, IMO more comfy than my new F30 320.
 
Everything really, lot of my though. Driving was hard to be honest, I get all fuel paid through work (pay tax) so never cared. Mway speeds usually 85-90, accel quickly upto speed.

It's an honest representation. Lovely car though, and very comfy for long runs, IMO more comfy than my new F30 320.


Did a bit of research and can see you were not alone with this problem according to some Alfa forums.

It certainly isn't right and totally defeats the object of having a diesel. One thing observed was the 1.9 didn't seem to work as well in the 159 as it did in the 156. Probably because it was such a heavier car at a 1535kg compared to 1300kg of the 156.
 
Good to know it wasn't just my right foot!

The other issue was the nearly £300. (non runflat) tyres the Ti version chewed up every 10k miles or so (all 4) supposedly a factory tracking issue
 
To the 1.9 jtd'ers with poor economy. How high does your coolant temperature get? If it doesn't rise about 60c then your thermostat is shot needs replacing and this can cause poor economy.

B@
 
Good to know it wasn't just my right foot!

The other issue was the nearly £300. (non runflat) tyres the Ti version chewed up every 10k miles or so (all 4) supposedly a factory tracking issue

The standard suspension has too much toe in set I believe, when you get it tracked get them to set it up for sport suspension, problem solved.

B@
 
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