70th Anniversary of the Dambusters Raid Today

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Local RAFA branch are screening The Dambusters tonight at my old school. Going to try and get there if I can convince number 2 son to come along.
 
Something on TV tonight about it all too iirc.

Edit: BBC2 7pm.


This is worth a watch also IMO.....

Dambusters declassified - Martin Shaw.

1hr.
 
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Sorry but I don't think this operation should be celebrated like it is being. Yes there was some ingenious engineering, yes the men who took part were very brave and some died doing it, and yes it was war and the Germans had been bombing us. I just can't help feeling that because lots of German civilians drowned as a consequence of this raid, a celebration on its anniversary isn't appropriate.
 
scorza said:
Sorry but I don't think this operation should be celebrated like it is being. Yes there was some ingenious engineering, yes the men who took part were very brave and some died doing it, and yes it was war and the Germans had been bombing us. I just can't help feeling that because lots of German civilians drowned as a consequence of this raid, a celebration on its anniversary isn't appropriate.
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I disagree, It was a BIG win for the war, any big win should be celebrated/commemorated.

Each to their own though.
 
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scorza said:
Sorry but I don't think this operation should be celebrated like it is being. Yes there was some ingenious engineering, yes the men who took part were very brave and some died doing it, and yes it was war and the Germans had been bombing us. I just can't help feeling that because lots of German civilians drowned as a consequence of this raid, a celebration on its anniversary isn't appropriate.
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Celebrated, perhaps not. Commemorated, definitely. Whilst the actual disruption caused was fairly minimal, the overall affect was significant for the war effort.
 
scorza said:
Sorry but I don't think this operation should be celebrated like it is being. Yes there was some ingenious engineering, yes the men who took part were very brave and some died doing it, and yes it was war and the Germans had been bombing us. I just can't help feeling that because lots of German civilians drowned as a consequence of this raid, a celebration on its anniversary isn't appropriate.
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There is a large difference between commemorating and celebrating.
 
scorza said:
Sorry but I don't think this operation should be celebrated like it is being. Yes there was some ingenious engineering, yes the men who took part were very brave and some died doing it, and yes it was war and the Germans had been bombing us. I just can't help feeling that because lots of German civilians drowned as a consequence of this raid, a celebration on its anniversary isn't appropriate.
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I disagree.
War is war, an awful thing, certainly.

That said, the dambusters raid was one of the first real strikes at the German Reich, and that lifted otherwise flagging spirits in this country immensely.

Yes, civilians died, not to mention many prisoners of war held in the valley below the dam, but by your logic we should not commemorate anything wartime related because of civilian deaths.

I view it more as a general tribute to RAF Bomber command and their exploits during the war,not just the 54 who did not return from the dams raid , for a very long time the bombers were our only way of hitting back at the evil that was the third Reich.

As for the German civilians as a whole, they supported Hitler, knew what he was about (had they bothered to read Mein Kampf) and largely supported the regime right until the bitter end, they supported a leader who wanted to conquer Europe and paid a very harsh price for doing so.

To quote my late grandfather who served during the war.....
"I had sympathy for individual suffering, certainly, the German people as a whole, very little."
 
scorza said:
Sorry but I don't think this operation should be celebrated like it is being. Yes there was some ingenious engineering, yes the men who took part were very brave and some died doing it, and yes it was war and the Germans had been bombing us. I just can't help feeling that because lots of German civilians drowned as a consequence of this raid, a celebration on its anniversary isn't appropriate.
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If i tried to respond to this insane comment, i'd probably get banned. You best just slink away with head hanged in shame
 
Cool, just talking to my work mate, road trip to Chatsworth it is then!!

I have actually visited the Mohne dam and it is a very beautiful area of countryside but when you look at the surrounding terrain makes you think 'dem guys were crazee!!'

And while it didn't take long for the Germans to rebuild and get working again it re-routed vital supplies and construction crews from other projects so the effect was worth the effort not to mention the moral boost it gave a country.
 
scorza said:
Sorry but I don't think this operation should be celebrated like it is being. Yes there was some ingenious engineering, yes the men who took part were very brave and some died doing it, and yes it was war and the Germans had been bombing us. I just can't help feeling that because lots of German civilians drowned as a consequence of this raid, a celebration on its anniversary isn't appropriate.
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Tell that to all the Civilians the Nazis killed.
 
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