Only if there is a dedicated cycle line as far as i know. Then that is fair enough. Anyhow, even if they are supposed to go to the front, it is the stupidest thing in the whole world of stupid.
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Only if there is a dedicated cycle line as far as i know. Then that is fair enough. Anyhow, even if they are supposed to go to the front, it is the stupidest thing in the whole world of stupid.
They're certainly becoming more prevalent but that doesn't mean they should
Maybe maybe not. But for the council to spend money putting it there means there has been an issue with cyclists vs vehicle.
The problem is we as motorists see these signs/road markings and don't give a second thought to why they are there.
Well many motorists are stupid then...
But then we knew that anyway, anyone that spends time anywhere knows most people have the common sense of a shrew... Unfortunately you ant do much damage as a pedestrian on a bike, you can in a car...
I don't know, but my answer would be mow the child down then post about it on twitter.
Totally agree with whoever said you get douchebag cyclists, motorists and pedestrians, some people are just inconsiderate idiots no matter how they get from A to B. My colleague often just walks in front of cars in central London and doesn't understand why i'll actually Stop, Look and Listen. It drives me crazy.
However i also get annoyed when a cyclist undertakes a whole row of cars, barely missing scratching paintwork as they wobble along and then cycle off in the middle of the road holding up the car traffic. I still wouldn't "buzz them" though, just overtake them safely when i can and then give them the Kenco sign over my shoulder.
However i also get annoyed when a cyclist undertakes a whole row of cars, barely missing scratching paintwork as they wobble along and then cycle off in the middle of the road holding up the car traffic. I still wouldn't "buzz them" though, just overtake them safely when i can and then give them the Kenco sign over my shoulder.
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Not sure I agree with you there. if it's an ASL, then tough. If not, then it's judgement. If the road ahead is narrow / obstruction (e.g. parked car etc), then I fail to see your point. I do this only if I feel I need the space based on upcoming events.
Why would you go in front of the cars that just overtook you, just for them to have to overtake you again a few seconds later and potentially cause more hold ups/ cars having to go on the opposite side of the road.
It is bonkers.
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People seem to assume that just because someone cycles they cant drive? LOGIC!
I can do both, my bike costs more than probably 50% of the knackered cars I see everyday which are barely road legal. I wear a helmet, go on cycle routes when available , stick close to the edge etc etc....
it is your duty as a driver behind the wheel of a ton vehicle to make sure you are aware 100% of the time and to show due care. This is the first thing you a taught by the driving instructor - its a shame many idiots seem to forget this.
I can do both, my bike costs more than probably 50% of the knackered cars I see everyday which are barely road legal. I wear a helmet, go on cycle routes when available , stick close to the edge etc etc....
it is your duty as a driver behind the wheel of a ton vehicle to make sure you are aware 100% of the time and to show due care. This is the first thing you a taught by the driving instructor - its a shame many idiots seem to forget this.
Well said.
Hey! At certain times of the year there are toad massacres on the road round my area.
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Do you realise how unsafe it is to cycle up to an obstruction with cars pelting it past you and then trying to pull out? It's not about overtaking etc, it's about holding a safe line throughout the road, that's why I do it anyway. There are drivers who don't care about other road users and leave no space whatsover between a parked car / kerb etc.
If it delays your journey by a couple of seconds and it makes you mad, then maybe you need to drive with less anger.
Any seasoned, road savvy cyclist is not doing it to annoy you or for arrogance; they are doing it for safety. yes there are the hot weather, cycle once a month guys who do, but not all of us!
If it delays your journey by a couple of seconds and it makes you mad, then maybe you need to drive with less anger.
Any seasoned, road savvy cyclist is not doing it to annoy you or for arrogance; they are doing it for safety. yes there are the hot weather, cycle once a month guys who do, but not all of us!
The funny thing is, if she is banned from driving she might have to get a bike...
No it still makes zero sense. What danger is there by just holding station where you were in the traffic when you come to a queue? you will still have to go past any further obstacles with cars behind regardless (although you will definitely have cars behind you if you go to the front of the queue??). By going to the front, you then have everyone who was in front of you before the red light then having to overtake you again.
Totally agree, but it's surely also the duty of a cyclist to not put themselves in unnecessary potential danger e.g. by undertaking, particularly at junctions, the times i've checked and had to abort a left hand turn and slam on the brakes because some idiot on a bike was flying through on my inside.
If the cyclist were to hold station in the middle of the lane then they would hold up the drivers behind before they have chance to ride past the junction and pull over.
If the cyclist were to hold station to the left hand side of the carriageway then there is a larger chance they will be overtaken and then wiped out by someone turning left.
The reason I jump to the front is so the blind drivers can see me. I dont care if it means they get to the next red light 5 secs later.
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So rather than holding a position whereby you know as a cyclist you have given yourself ample room to get past an upcoming obstruction, you are saying I should just stop where I am? So i see two outcomes there;
Outcome A) I am in the gutter. I stay there. It's going to be a challenge to pull out especially as you get the few guys who accelerate off a red light like they are racing in the F1
Outcome B) I am in the middle of the road but not at the front. I feel safe yes, but surely it's no different in terms of any "delays" to the traffic?
I am telling you I do it for safety. I don't do it to annoy a driver or to show off. I care about my safety on the road when I cycle. I don't go out to annoy anyone else...
Outcome A) I am in the gutter. I stay there. It's going to be a challenge to pull out especially as you get the few guys who accelerate off a red light like they are racing in the F1
Outcome B) I am in the middle of the road but not at the front. I feel safe yes, but surely it's no different in terms of any "delays" to the traffic?
I am telling you I do it for safety. I don't do it to annoy a driver or to show off. I care about my safety on the road when I cycle. I don't go out to annoy anyone else...
How is this arrogant? Was it safe to pass the car, if so, then what's the problem? How dare another road user be an inconvenience
I don't know about the roads you are on, but unless the car/lorry is a crap driver I don't hold up the traffic coming away from lights as I stick to the left. (traffic islands/parked cars/traffic etc might be more frequent in your area which might present greater problems passing?)
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Jono8, no offence but you sound like those drivers you get everyday that seem to just blanketly hate cyclists.
Do you swear at them and beep a lot in anger?
Do you swear at them and beep a lot in anger?
Yes, because the people at the front who have just overtaken you don't have to then overtake you again due to you now having made your way to the front.
