Massive moral / criminal dilemma – what would you have done?

i wouldn't have taken it as i'd feel i'd spend the next 10 yrs looking over my shoulder.

i may have stashed it for a year to see if anyone asked though and reconsidered if no one did.
 
[FnG]magnolia;24335511 said:
You don't fully understand the way that they work nor the very, very stringent processes which come in to play given the OP's fairy tale description.
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Where do you work then exactly that you know so sure that this didn't happen? Guessing you work for some kind of clearing bank in NZ and never in the City of London or you would know that these types of methods of moving money about were in the past common.
 
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In a FI in New Zealand.

e : Ah, you edited. I worked in London at the same time as you did. Now isn't that a coincidence! And common doesn't mean acceptable.
 
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[FnG]magnolia;24335569 said:
In a FI in New Zealand.
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I used to have to also reconcile the USD Eurobond account. Granted all these transaction were done electronically through Euroclear.

The year before I started working at this bank they would have to reconcile all accounts on massive handwritten ledgers using pens and calculators. They had just got Lotus 1-2-3 when I joined doing them on spreadsheets. This was one of top 5 banks in the world at the time.

Gilts were still settled in an old fashioned way with messengers, cheques and bonds for collateral and such like with people trotting of to the Bank of England with bowler hats (occasionally).
 
EyepodI said:
I used to have to also reconcile the USD Eurobond account. Granted all these transaction were done electronically through Euroclear.

The year before I started working at this bank they would have to reconcile all accounts on massive handwritten ledgers using pens and calculators. They had just got Lotus 1-2-3 when I joined doing them on spreadsheets. This was one of top 5 banks in the world at the time.

Gilts were still settled in an old fashioned way with messengers, cheques and bonds for collateral and such like with people trotting of to the Bank of England with bowler hats (occasionally).
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You remember all of this but not whether it was $2.5M or more/less?

For what it's worth, I believe you. Not on the amount or the ability to take it but for the practice of the time.

I'm desperate to know who you're talking about though. I think I could get it in 2 :)
 
[FnG]magnolia;24335688 said:
You remember all of this but not whether it was $2.5M or more/less?

For what it's worth, I believe you. Not on the amount or the ability to take it but for the practice of the time.

I'm desperate to know who you're talking about though. I think I could get it in 2 :)
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Whats your guess then?
 
To the opening poster the only thing that stops most people from doing that is the fear of getting caught.
 
How the hell would there not be a paper trail leading to you and an inevitable jail term

There's stealing stationary from work then there is trying to cash a £2.5m bond to a personal account.

i dont know but it seems ridiculous. I dont think id do it through fear of getting caught.
 
[FnG]magnolia;24335569 said:
In a FI in New Zealand.

e : Ah, you edited. I worked in London at the same time as you did. Now isn't that a coincidence! And common doesn't mean acceptable.
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:D
 
B&W said:
To the opening poster the only thing that stops most people from doing that is the fear of getting caught.
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This is the saddest part of it. Most people would take it as long as they didn't think they would get caught. I would just feel bad. My parents didn't raise me to steal from others regardless of who they are. I either earn my money or I don't have it.
 
fez said:
This is the saddest part of it. Most people would take it as long as they didn't think they would get caught. I would just feel bad. My parents didn't raise me to steal from others regardless of who they are. I either earn my money or I don't have it.
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Most people break the Law because they think they'll get away with it.

Speeding is the obvious one.

Its only the perceived seriousness that stops "Most" of us
 
mattyg said:
Most people break the Law because they think they'll get away with it.

Speeding is the obvious one.

Its only the perceived seriousness that stops "Most" of us
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Of course very few people break the law with the intention of getting caught but most people on here wouldn't feel bad for stealing £2.5 million. That to me is a little worrying how much people are willing to break the law as long as they didn't think they would get caught. At some point morals should stop people from doing things not the fear of punishment.
 
fez said:
This is the saddest part of it. Most people would take it as long as they didn't think they would get caught. I would just feel bad. My parents didn't raise me to steal from others regardless of who they are. I either earn my money or I don't have it.
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Agreed. I wouldn't even get as far as thinking 'what if', I would have already decided to hand it in upon seeing it.
 
Interesting how many people have said it's about guts rather than morals. Is this because it's a bank?
 
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