Nvidia pricing is a joke?

[V F]

However, there's no single AMD GPU at stock that can max all games comfortably at 1080p.

I run my 7970 at 1000MHZ and if I max Tomb Raider 4x SA and TressFX it's pretty awful.

Sleeping Dogs? That's pretty awful at maximum AA.

Crysis 3? Going to be the same there.

Witcher 2? Going to be the same there.

I bet the extra 30% of the titan or whatever it is will be just good enough to make it comfortable, and that extra 30% should be available at reasonable price points now given we're 18 months from the 7970's debut.

Nvidia/AMD are artificially pushing people towards consoles with their pricing to be honest.

£800 to £900 is just comfortable frame rate?

Must be careful with my AMD bashing, I'll get called a fanboy, so I'll curb it now

Not remember? somebody said AMD is for poor people. It's gospel! I can't look at my puter anymore, I feel appalled.

 

[spoffle]

It's not arbitrary, when anyone speaks of market share Nvidia vs AMD it's just about discrete cards. Most people know that....? The link i provided showed various market share for different comparison, showing Nvidia, Intel and AMD.

I'm talking about your response to it.

That, in addition to your multiple reference to CPUs, as it showed you didn't understand the chart.

 

[Tonester0011]

I'm talking about your response to it.

That, in addition to your multiple reference to CPUs, as it showed you didn't understand the chart.

I looked at the chart, saw Intel with 60% market share, disregarded the link as it wasn't relevant to the discussion at hand (didn't actually read it) assumed it was CPUs considering Intel doesn't have anything in the discrete market as that was the topic at hand.

A wise man once said....

Stop being so absolute about statements made.

 

[spoffle]

I looked at the chart, saw Intel with 60% market share, disregarded the link as it wasn't relevant to the discussion at hand (didn't actually read it) assumed it was CPUs considering Intel doesn't have anything in the discrete market as that was the topic at hand.

A wise man once said....

I'm not being absolute, you dismissed the chart because you didn't understand it was about GPUs, you saw Intel and assumed it was CPUs.

Surely you'd know Intel make the most GPUs by far? It's like common knowledge.

I don't see where being absolute comes in at all, especially considering the multiple times I pointed out that it had nothing to do with CPUs and you still insisted it was CPUs.

 

[Tonester0011]

I'm not being absolute, you dismissed the chart because you didn't understand it was about GPUs, you saw Intel and assumed it was CPUs.

Surely you'd know Intel make the most GPUs by far? It's like common knowledge.

I don't see where being absolute comes in at all, especially considering the multiple times I pointed out that it had nothing to do with CPUs and you still insisted it was CPUs.

Multiple? You pointed it out once, yesterday and brought it back up today as i never responded. Never responded as the link was junk, it's putting everything into one basket without labels to differentiate what the bloody data means.

Near enough every intel chip comes with an IGP attached, how is that a valid case for the discrete market we were discussing at the time...who in their right mind plays games on them. Likewise AMD have the APU, laptops/notebooks are big sellers, it's kind of obvious if we were to lump everything together Intel and AMD would come out on top.

FYI i wasn't insisting it was just CPUs i actually said it's counting CPUs...slightly different. On another note, to insist something is to say it more than once, something i didn't do.

 

[Boomstick777]

Although the high end prices are very very high, both AMD and Nvidia offer more than enough performance at the lower levels for most normal gamers.

HD 7950 Xfire or GTX 670 SLI doesn't cost a great deal and will run everything maxxed out at 1440P. What more do you need?

The overpriced cards are for the E-Peen crowd. Just be happy there are some real good value options out there for everyone else..

My 7950 3GB crossfire cost me £300 for both cards, and beats the Titan I benchmarked...

No point crying over prices just get the best bang for buck now or wait for new cards to drop in price.

 

[Rusty0611]

HD 7950 Xfire or GTX 670 SLI doesn't cost a great deal and will run everything maxxed out at 1440P. What more do you need?

They don't...

 

[Tonester0011]

HD 7950 Xfire or GTX 670 SLI doesn't cost a great deal and will run everything maxxed out at 1440P. What more do you need?

Love to know how you're keeping your 2ghz 7950s cool, because normal clocked 7950s certainly don't max out every game @1440....

 

[Boomstick777]

Love to know how you're keeping your 2ghz 7950s cool, because normal clocked 7950s certainly don't max out every game @1440....

They don't...

Tbh it's irrelevant what you think about my cards because they do Literally maxed out every game I have @ 1440p.

Windforce triple fan cooling.

Spoiler

7970 Ghz bios, utter beasts and £300 for the pair. Point of my post was value is subjective, to me two cards at £300 that can run everything is more value than the Titan at £850 that can't. Thing is the people who bought the Titan aren't the ones crying about prices..

Their are bargain cards available right now, nobody needs a Titan. In the same way nobody needs a Ferrari. I don't see many people crying about Ferrari prices, they just accept it's out of their reach. Same principal apply to expensive GPU's..

 

[Rusty0611]

You said max every game at 2560x1440. Not every game YOU have.

 

[Sin_Chase]

Tbh it's irrelevant what you think about my cards because they do Literally maxed out every game I have @ 1440p.

"Max out every game" changes to "Literally maxed out every game I have"

So, now it's only the games you have, and literally. Care to clarify further?

 

[Tonester0011]

Tbh it's irrelevant what you think about my cards because they do Literally maxed out every game I have @ 1440p.

You don't own many of the latest AAA games, do you...?
What sort of settings "literally" maxes out the games you have, turning it up to 11 is maxing out the games...turning AA down one notch isn't.

 

[smelly_legend]

Nvidia can charge what they want. The market will do the rest.

 

[The Running Man]

The market is a duopoly though...so normal market forces need not apply.

 

[V F]

Although the high end prices are very very high, both AMD and Nvidia offer more than enough performance at the lower levels for most normal gamers.

HD 7950 Xfire or GTX 670 SLI doesn't cost a great deal and will run everything maxxed out at 1440P. What more do you need?

The overpriced cards are for the E-Peen crowd. Just be happy there are some real good value options out there for everyone else..

My 7950 3GB crossfire cost me £300 for both cards, and beats the Titan I benchmarked...

No point crying over prices just get the best bang for buck now or wait for new cards to drop in price.

The 660 Ti's are looking very tempting... at least from the impression of the Anandtech benchmarks. I haven't been on NVIDIA since AGP.

 

[jonneymendoza]

Having seen the Titan pricing and then the release of the 780 being $150 dollars higher than the 680 launch and a $100 higher than the 7970 launch, do you feel the price is a joke.

I can see the attraction in both cards (Titan + 780) but a lot of feedback indicates the prices are too high.

Is this the shape of things to come? Or will they just not sell at this price and have to drop a few dollars before the majority start buying? What is a fair price for the 780? Will AMD sell the 9970 for similar or will they sell for much lower.

No competition.

AMD have nothing to bring out until the new 20mm architect

 

[nomadd]

AMD have nothing to bring out until the new 20mm architect

XBOX One.

PS4.

Both AMD inside.

In all seriousness, the way PC graphics cards are going, I might just buy a PS4 and be done with it.

 

[V F]

XBOX One.

PS4.

Both AMD inside.

In all seriousness, the way PC graphics cards are going, I might just buy a PS4 and be done with it.

Realistically, how many are not console counterparts?

 

[Martini1991]

£800 to £900 is just comfortable frame rate?



Not remember? somebody said AMD is for poor people. It's gospel! I can't look at my puter anymore, I feel appalled.

I said the performance that Titan is should be available at a reasonable price point, and that Titan performance is what I'd consider you need for comfortable 1080p performance in a fair few titles maxed out.

I'm also not of the opinion AMD is for poor people. Given the 7950 launched at prices that occupied the same space as the 680's launch, it's crazy to even insinuate AMD is for the poor.

 

[Rofflay]

Max every game my butt lads!


Take a look at 2560x1600p framerates in games like BF3 even Witcher II lol.... Only Nvidia could sell or want to sell you a bit of silicone that costs £700 and cannot play BF3 above 1600p without dipping down to 40's.Try explaining it to someone who is a casual, i have and thier jaw dropped.Years ago £400 would get you a card that would tear through anything but Crysis.Now it just seems that if u want to max out the big guns you gotta pay £800 every 3 years?!


No chance lol Nvidia need to die a swift death for this!