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[Kaktus69]

Point is that although you'd expect the CPU to get comparatively hot when stress testing, it should not be reaching 90-100C at 4.7 GHz with a H100 when running P95. It shows Intel are still using crappy TIM on Haswell as they did with Ivybridge.

Yep, same problem that Ivybridge had unfortunately.

 

[Kaktus69]

idk ive never tried the hammer method,everything looks nice and simple till you come to actually doing it

the knife on one corner and plastic spreader for the rest was the way I did mine

Stanley knife blade to loosen each corner then loosen the sides. Worked for me on the single time I tried. Vice & hammer seems a bit OTT.

 

[lettuce]

Stanley knife blade to loosen each corner then loosen the sides. Worked for me on the single time I tried. Vice & hammer seems a bit OTT.

But it can be done in like 10 seconds though versus 30min + for the blade method, plus theres no chance of cutting through a trace, resistor or the dye on the pcb......you'll just end up tonking it instead with the wood and obliterating it. LOL

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

I don't think I have the courage to attempt delidding my 3770k yet- maybe when I upgrade to Skylake and my setup gets relegated to the rank of 'spare PC' I might have a go for fun

 

[Kaktus69]

But it can be done in like 10 seconds though versus 30min + for the blade method, plus theres no chance of cutting through a trace, resistor or the dye on the pcb......you'll just end up tonking it instead with the wood and obliterating it. LOL

Blade method took ~2mins. You would have to be extremely clumsy to cut through anything of importance.

 

[Mei]

i wonder if intel feel guilty with this release!
i want build a pc with the new sniper but these cpus

 

[MOOGLEYS]

Just finished a build using a 4770k and msi gaming board. CPU clocked to 4.5ghz and with a d-14 it's hitting 94.c on occt. This is the first time I have heard a pair of noctua fans on a D-14 ramp up too quite loud levels.

So far unless you are running high end water these chips are stupidly hot running and tbh not really fit for overclocking.

If a d-14 is struggling then god knows how smaller air coolers will cope with anything other than stock.

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

Just finished a build using a 4770k and msi gaming board. CPU clocked to 4.5ghz and with a d-14 it's hitting 94.c on occt. This is the first time I have heard a pair of noctua fans on a D-14 ramp up too quite loud levels.

So far unless you are running high end water these chips are stupidly hot running and tbh not really fit for overclocking.

That's very hot for only a 4.5 GHz overclock with a D14, what voltage were you using? Ivybridge gets hot when overclocked, but generally only goes into crazy temps past about 4.8 GHz (depending on voltage needed), most will do 4.5 happily. Sounds like Haswell might be worse than IB in terms of overclocking?

 

[MOOGLEYS]

That's very hot for only a 4.5 GHz overclock with a D14, what voltage were you using? Ivybridge gets hot when overclocked, but generally only goes into crazy temps past about 4.8 GHz (depending on voltage needed), most will do 4.5 happily. Sounds like Haswell might be worse than IB in terms of overclocking?

1.25v, I'm going to finish it in the morning now. I have re-seated the cooler twice with no difference. Tbh I'm not happy with the temps for 24/7 use the Noctua's fans really ramp up quite a bit which is just crazy.

Will have a look tomorrow and see where to go.

 

[spixelspixel]

If the IHS on the cpu can't dissipate the heat well enough, then the size of the cpu cooler will make little difference. Wouldn't be surprised if the d14 gives the exact same temps as a 20 pound cooler as the cpu isn't actually outputting much heat.

Water will be better as its always more efficient than air but it will still be very hot running.

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

1.25v, I'm going to finish it in the morning now. I have re-seated the cooler twice with no difference. Tbh I'm not happy with the temps for 24/7 use the Noctua's fans really ramp up quite a bit which is just crazy.

Will have a look tomorrow and see where to go.

Sounds like a reasonable voltage for that clock, my 3770k uses about 1.23v for 4.5 GHz (Though I imagine Haswell voltages will be a little different to IB, but probably not massively). Unfortunately it seems Haswell is pretty underwhelming for overclocking, shame Intel didn't take the opportunity to use better TIM than IB. The thing is, that us overclockers make up a small minority of users, and even people who overclock will still buy Intel CPUs whether or not they overclock well. So from a business perspective, there is no incentive for Intel to spend more money on better quality TIM. Good for profits, bad for us overclockers.

 

[wazza300]

1.25v, I'm going to finish it in the morning now. I have re-seated the cooler twice with no difference. Tbh I'm not happy with the temps for 24/7 use the Noctua's fans really ramp up quite a bit which is just crazy.

Will have a look tomorrow and see where to go.

volts are fine,again id be happy with anything below 1.4v for 24/7 use

its the ****** paste they use,no matter howmany times you reseat the heatsink it won't do no good

for example im using a silver arrow cooler and delidded 3770k 65c max @4.6ghz 1.28v

 

[V F]

Just finished a build using a 4770k and msi gaming board. CPU clocked to 4.5ghz and with a d-14 it's hitting 94.c on occt. This is the first time I have heard a pair of noctua fans on a D-14 ramp up too quite loud levels.

So far unless you are running high end water these chips are stupidly hot running and tbh not really fit for overclocking.

If a d-14 is struggling then god knows how smaller air coolers will cope with anything other than stock.

How does the heatsink feel to your fingers?

That's very hot for only a 4.5 GHz overclock with a D14, what voltage were you using? Ivybridge gets hot when overclocked, but generally only goes into crazy temps past about 4.8 GHz (depending on voltage needed), most will do 4.5 happily. Sounds like Haswell might be worse than IB in terms of overclocking?

The PowerPC G5 chips ran cooler than this. 75c at load.

 

[OLDPHART]

Hi again, if you think about it, using cheap compound is the easiest way of stopping you overclocking even though Intel have unlocked the multi and charge you for it.

Very crafty Intel.

 

[Boomstick777]

Buy a brand new CPU and then have to void your warranty by delidding so you can overclock it.. Seems a crazy way of doing things. These shouldn't be so hot they require delidding. Def worth skipping and going with X79 4820K for similar money imho..

 

[Greebo]

Reported Haswell heat reminds me of Prescott.

Me too they were hot little buggers!

 

[MOOGLEYS]

How does the heatsink feel to your fingers?

Warm.

The overclock is 4.6Ghz not 4.5Ghz but it is not stable at 1.25v running OCCT this morning it blue screened a couple of times. It's needing 1.32v to be stable at 4.6Ghz but it is then down clocking as it is hitting it's thermal limit with the temps jumping over 100.c at times.

It seems these chips are really poorly made and worse than Ivy chips or this one is anyway. A D14 should easily be able to cope so it must be the heatspreader thermal paste issue again.

I have a borrowed 2700k in my system which at 4.6Ghz is only just reaching 70.c under the same tests.

I'm not delidding a brand new cpu so it's going back to be swapped for another that hopefully will give better results.

 

[stuie]

Buy a brand new CPU and then have to void your warranty by delidding so you can overclock it.. Seems a crazy way of doing things. These shouldn't be so hot they require delidding. Def worth skipping and going with X79 4820K for similar money imho..

Do you really think now that they have gone down this road that the new ivy-e and has-e will use solder? I suspect not delidding will become the norm for a while I suspect regardless of platform

 

[Deleted member 2277]

The only thing to consider really is if you're willing to stick with a dead end socket or go for the upgradeable path with the motherboard.

In my experience people tend to upgrade the CPU and motherboard at the same time so the dead socket issue isn't really an issue at all.

 

[smilertoo]

Moogleys: you can send a cpu back just because it wont OC well?