Tongue-sewn diet patch makes eating painful
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It's such a massive cluster**** of miscommunication that I'm finding it quite hilarious so far. 
Freefaller and bigjohnsonrichard nailed it on this page, but we're still going. I shouldn't laugh, my abs hurt too much from all the bloody work today.
Freefaller and bigjohnsonrichard nailed it on this page, but we're still going. I shouldn't laugh, my abs hurt too much from all the bloody work today.
I stopped reading at the end of page 2 but....
I work in an office building that is 70% female with varying ages of about 21-70. Obviously, fair share of fatties but to echo what was said, my experience with them is moaning about their weight but finding an excuse not to change their diet or exercise (or the typical 'I walk the dog every day!' but then you eat a whole cake..).
I have known a few people who were fatties and lost a lot of weight and at least seem healthy. They accomplished this by changing their diet and exercising and it didn't seem to kill them.
Therefore from my 100% life experience of fatties I can only summarise that yeah, change your diet and exercise (information of which is freely available on the internet but I would also like to think is common sense) and you will no longer be a fatty!
I understand the original Calorie in>out debate but I dunno, plenty of people lose weight without having to measure their meals and carbs. Just common sense on not to eat a trough full of cake for your intake that day.
I have no medical or scientific training to lead me to this conclusion simply seeing fatties get thin and fatties stay fat and their different attitudes.
Would like to add that i'm relatively skinny and fat women LOVE to comment on how skinny I am and tell me to eat more cake! I have tried explaining how thats bad for you but their fat....they just don't seem to get it. Another contribution to my opinion.
I work in an office building that is 70% female with varying ages of about 21-70. Obviously, fair share of fatties but to echo what was said, my experience with them is moaning about their weight but finding an excuse not to change their diet or exercise (or the typical 'I walk the dog every day!' but then you eat a whole cake..).
I have known a few people who were fatties and lost a lot of weight and at least seem healthy. They accomplished this by changing their diet and exercising and it didn't seem to kill them.
Therefore from my 100% life experience of fatties I can only summarise that yeah, change your diet and exercise (information of which is freely available on the internet but I would also like to think is common sense) and you will no longer be a fatty!
I understand the original Calorie in>out debate but I dunno, plenty of people lose weight without having to measure their meals and carbs. Just common sense on not to eat a trough full of cake for your intake that day.
I have no medical or scientific training to lead me to this conclusion simply seeing fatties get thin and fatties stay fat and their different attitudes.
Would like to add that i'm relatively skinny and fat women LOVE to comment on how skinny I am and tell me to eat more cake! I have tried explaining how thats bad for you but their fat....they just don't seem to get it. Another contribution to my opinion.
Absolutely 100% true.
I've eaten on a 1200 cal deficit for weeks, and a 1600 cal deficit for months a few years ago.
I was determined and I succeeded. Everything else is an excuse. Far too many lilly-livered excuse makers out there.
EDIT: probably got unnecessarily angry in that last part, edited. Ahem.
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What weight were you?
Don't you think the seemingly genetic (or decided in very early development) differences in peoples abilities in temporal discounting may influence their ability to make the kind of choices required those "wants" a reality?.
Or even the hugely different genetic predispositions to addiction (in this case sugar) also factor in?.
I remember when people who ate too much rubbish used to be called greedy. Now it's a "genetic predisposition to sugar addiction".
Will power!
Well, more the fact I wanted to make up for skipping gym today
Took all my stuff but just didn't feel like it after work 
Tomorrow though!
Maybe.
Well yes, everyone is wired differently of course. Some people have to work harder to make changes in their life than others.
Well, more the fact I wanted to make up for skipping gym today
Tomorrow though!
Maybe.
That's the kind of commitment that will bring you great success in life, good work...
Then assuming like most things it's a sliding scale, some people by be wired in such a way they simply don't have the willpower or the innate ability at temporal discounting, or have no self control due to addiction.
I'm not saying the diet advice is bad (some excellent advice in here (Also in the sports forum/bodybuilding thread) - which is great for people already motivated, just that it's not the only factor - as obtaining that motivation is in some ways a bigger feat than knowing what to do when you have it.
Obesity isn't just about diet, otherwise people who suffer depression or sexual abuse wouldn't have an increased propensity for it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17606550 (just one of many studies - Obesity risk for female victims of childhood sexual abuse: a prospective study.).
My main problem with this thread is that some people (not saying you are) are trying to condense a hugely complex subject into basic diet advice & ignoring everything else.
I remember when we thought the world was flat.
Sudden: I would advise doing something you do enjoy then, although many would argue and just tell you to get on with it 
Lol @ thread, so many people going round in circles its hilarious.
Calorie deficit to lose weight, calorie surplus to gain weight.
Some people find it easy to do, others don't.
Some find excuses and binge and lack self control, others just do what's needed.
SOME people actually have eating problems, I for one didn't eat when I was younger due to thinking all I could was fat in the mirror, however I've overcome that now to some extent.
Lol @ thread, so many people going round in circles its hilarious.
Calorie deficit to lose weight, calorie surplus to gain weight.
Some people find it easy to do, others don't.
Some find excuses and binge and lack self control, others just do what's needed.
SOME people actually have eating problems, I for one didn't eat when I was younger due to thinking all I could was fat in the mirror, however I've overcome that now to some extent.
No, not really. I don't know much about the science behind it. But an addiction can be overcome, wether it be food, drugs, whatever and is just an other excuse to make fat people feel better.
To be honest I don't really care, I know fine well I can lose weight/put it on when I want as I know roughly how dieting works. It really is simple, no need to over complicate it as some people seem to have done here.