NSA has "back door" into Google, Apple, Facebook and others

[rich.searle91]

if you want e-mail privacy host your own mail server simple (to some extent ) but then you can't guarantee what happens to your mail once i leaves your side.

 

[Amp34]

Nothing to hide and all that...

Honestly don't have a problem with any of this. If they catch some bad guys by doing it then it's worth it, right?

Ok, so you'd be happy for me to wonder into your house, rummage through your stuff and check you haven't stolen any of my belonging, or have a plan to steal any?

Nothing to hide right?

If so please email me your address to my trust and we can arrange an appointment.

 

[MookJong]

Most of you seem to be missing the point of the reason I started this thread. The companies being snooped on have not authorised this. This is effectively domestic corporate spying...

It's not just the publics information they have access to.

 

[doofer]

Nothing to hide and all that...

Honestly don't have a problem with any of this. If they catch some bad guys by doing it then it's worth it, right?

Post your PIN Numbers, passwords, credit card details here if you have nothing to hide.

The 'Nothing to hide' brigade are all cretinous fools. Everyone has something to hide.

 

[randal]

What's up with all the hopelessness, surely the events in the middle show you something can be done.

Protest, demonstrate, take to court etc

Protest in this country and they make a law that makes protesting illegal (fuel protests over here for example), demonstrate and you get some far right group, or some Occupy morons gatecrashing not that a government would listen anyway, and court? Sadly bud I don't think anyone would have the time, money or resources to take the NSA to court and win. Or survive lol.

 

[Strife212]

Oh look, another nothing news story.

It's actually pretty huge

Snooping, requesting information on people is one thing. Direct access into the databases of all the big companies is quite different!

 

[Craterloads]

If they have direct access to databases, does that mean they are snooping on us too?

Doesnt that put these companies at odds with the EU?

 

[mmj_uk]

They must be rubbing their hands at the thought of Xbox One with it's always online camera/microphone in every living room.

 

[Cuchulain]

Post your PIN Numbers, passwords, credit card details here if you have nothing to hide.

What a stupid argument! Governmental snooping that doesn't really affect your day to day lives vs. giving out info willingly to people that can and will ruin you?

The 'Nothing to hide' brigade are all cretinous fools. Everyone has something to hide.

The cretinous fools are the ones that think what they do have to hide isn't already known about.

 

[Strife212]

They must be rubbing their hands at the thought of Xbox One with it's always online camera/microphone in every living room.

I actually dismissed the privacy fears until I saw this news, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that they will be watching and listening to you

 

[xdcx]

If they have direct access to databases, does that mean they are snooping on us too?

Doesnt that put these companies at odds with the EU?

Americans looking at data on American based servers hosted by American companies.

All the EU could do is moan, as usual.

 

[Craterloads]

Americans looking at data on American based servers hosted by American companies.

All the EU could do is moan, as usual.

Wont these companies like google, microsoft store data on non US citizens on American based servers?

 

[Westyfield2]

<Fires up Darik's Boot And Nuke and watches out the window>

 

[Trusty]

I dont see the problem with it personally so long as its not abused. If it could have averted the boston bombings for example, then surely its a usefool tool.

 

[LordSplodge]

Honestly don't have a problem with any of this. If they catch some bad guys by doing it then it's worth it, right?

Oh good, I get to roll out Franklin: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Seriously, you think unwarranted mass surveillance because of the threat of the bogeyman, sorry "terrorism" is OK?

I'd be more concerned if they didn't have access TBH.

What are you scared of? Terrorism? So scared of the miniscule chance of being involved in a terrorist attack you don't actually mind unwarranted snooping?

I am more surprised that this is news to anyone. The internet has never been the place many people believe it to be.

Disagree. The Internet is shaping up to be where citizens have power over Governments. Governments don't like that so use the double edged sword that is citizens sharing data online.

 

[LordSplodge]

I dont see the problem with it personally so long as its not abused. If it could have averted the boston bombings for example, then surely its a usefool tool.

1. It wouldn't have. Just like the Snooper's Charter over here would not have stopped the two madmen (note: clearly insane but because there insaity involves Islam they're described as terrorists) in Woolwich.

2. Go look up RIPA (aka Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 ) an act that has been abused by Local Government to spy on people letting their digs foul. Any act the Governemnt makes will be abused. Not if but when.

3. See my post above. You don't see a problem with mass unwarranted surveillance because it "might" catch an un described boogeyman?

Power is hard to take away. It's addictive.

 

[doodah]

It didn't stop the Boston bombings; there are ways round and even with the intelligence services flagging suspicion on them - it still happened. I have nothing to hide but lets be honest, do we trust governments to not abuse, balls up, encroach its use on other aspects of life/society etc? I certainly don't.

Twice now the Obama government have appeared to use very flaky interpretations of the law to get what they want; drones killing US citizens.....sorry "saving lives" (and only releasing their legal justification after a lot of pressure) and this. Change? Ha. He's worse than Bush when it comes to this lol.

 

[MookJong]

I dont see the problem with it personally so long as its not abused.

Is it not an abuse in its own right to go around snooping in private companies files?

I think they have a term for that....err Hacking?

This action by the NSA is almost certainly illegal.

 

[yhack]

Brilliant. Any recommendations on alternatives to Gmail?

 

[Firestar_3x]

Brilliant. Any recommendations on alternatives to Gmail?

Why, do you have something to hide?