NSA has "back door" into Google, Apple, Facebook and others
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It's more like the police peering in through your window as they drive down the street. Most of the time they just see normal people watching tv and scratching their balls, but occasionally they'll spot someone wiring a bomb.
It's not a non-contextual argument. Sure, I have things to hide from you lot, myfriends, family, co-workers and strangers. But do I have things that I want to hide from the security services? No. Firstly, they're not going to be interested in my activity and secondly, if it means that criminals and terrorists are foiled then I'm not concerned with the small chance that 'the gov'ment' may read my bank statement or discover my proclivity for readheaded milfs.
The potential threat to me is far outweighed by the potential to reduce threat.
And I don't believe this for a second as that ppt is so mickey mouse it looks like it was created by a 12 year old.
Agreed. Especially the last bit about the power point looking fishy. It looks ridiculous.
Yes, so does everyone.
What's your email password so I can have a look through?
I assume you don't have curtains on your windows.
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Or a door to his bathroom..
If they can get to your email they can log on to anything you have (maybe apart from your bank)...
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Flawed analogy: The police would not be looking for Mr. Bomb but rather trawling through all those enraged in legal activity (TV watching, ball scratching etc) to find somebody doing something illegal.
That's out of order and frankly the invasion of my privacy outweighs your right to feel 'safe'.
What threat, exactly? The improbably minuscule chance you may be involved in a terrorist attack?
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You mean like they do now, when they patrol the streets full of law abiding citizens looking for illegal activity. Wiring a bomb was simply an example, I could have said a murder or growing drugs. whatever the activity discovered, the point is still the same.
No, the almost certain threat of another terrorist attack. The potential threat to me is small, the threat to the popuous as a whole is large. Or to put it another way; the NSA/MI5/GCHQ/whoever can access whatever they like of mine if it prevents any other person from dying in a terrorist attack.
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That's in public.
Would you agree to the police installing CCTV in every room in your home? you have nothing to hide afterall.
It's quite scary how many people today will defend increasingly pervasive surveillance.
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They already could if they wanted to, either lawfully or extrajudicially.
Maybe he likes to commit thought crimes.
Lol at the I have nothing to hide brigade, it's not about that its about the massive invasion of privacy by the state. Least in the UK the human rights act, 1998 article 8 should prevent this, but we all know they probably do it secretly.
Seriously people need to get a clue on how wrong it is for the state to spy on its own citizens on a mass scale, it's exactly what the Nazis did to find the Jews and then the East German Stasi.
Seriously people need to get a clue on how wrong it is for the state to spy on its own citizens on a mass scale, it's exactly what the Nazis did to find the Jews and then the East German Stasi.
