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Are there some new nvidia drivers coming

Read my post history. I don't get into petty arguments. I have no interest in "AMD vs Nvidia" arguments, whose drivers "suck balls", or whether xyz card is a waste of money (etc). My only interest is in the technology. How GPUs work, and what the future may hold. I approach the problem scientifically, which is probably a consequence of my training through work and education (I'm a University researcher and this is related to my field), and I have a fairly good understanding of how GPUs work.

In the past I've learned a great deal from knowledgeable others on these forums and elsewhere. In the meantime I've advanced my own knowledge in the field partly through my job, and partly through independent research. I still learn the odd thing or two here, from the few other knowledgeable people we have, and I'm always grateful for the chance to do so.

Where I can I like to contribute to others understanding of GPU technology. Many see them as 'magical' black boxes, when the basic processes are actually quite well defined, and in many cases have very predictable outcomes. You can look back to my predictions of how the last few generations of GPUs would be composed, and how they would perform, if you want evidence of this. You'll find they've never been too far off the mark.


If your ego is so fragile that you must turn everything around into an "argument", where you "turn out to be in the right", then there is nothing I can do about that. That's your problem, not mine. You should think, though, what this says about you and how it makes you seem to others... Believe it or not - this was never an argument. It started out as a discussion between myself and Rroff (who is another highly knowledgeable member of this forum), and evolved into an attempt by me to increase your knowledge on the subject. Clearly that is not something you are interested in.


I have no interest in your ego, nor in arguing with you. But, when I see people make statements that are factually incorrect, or misleading, with regards GPU technology I will speak up. Not because I care one fig about you personally, or "showing you up", or however else you may choose to see it. But because having misleading information on the forum leads to others being misled.


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If you would like to actually discuss something then please go ahead - list your viewpoints clearly and I'll address them from a neutral perspective (as always). I'll have all the time in the world for a mature discussion on one of my pet topics :) But if your only interest is in petty one-upsmanship and "winning" arguments, then I have no time for you.

I'm nobody special.

You detailed illustrations tie in to what i'm saying, so I really don't see the problem, I don't disagree with you and it seems to me you don't disagree with me.
I just don't understand why you felt the need to keep on illustrating the same thing that it seems we already agree on.

I don't pretend to be an expert and all knowing, I simply cite the effects of what is already widely known and try to add reasoning to it to provide an answer.

I'm not a teacher. so perhaps I may be wrong in demonstrating the effects of a cause in ways we all understand and see for our selves when we interact with the device, rather than mapping out the engineering of that device

Personally I have always found it far more useful for someone to show me how something works as opposed to giving me a verbal engineering schismatic.

perhaps if it was your cited ego and one-upmanship. I might try.
 
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I have just done some practical testing

I have run both a Titan and a GTX 690 at identical clock speeds on the Heaven 4 bench. These cards boost differently from each other so to get them running at the same clock speed involved using different pre boost settings. Once the cards were up and running they both went round the Heaven bench @1058mhz. Memory settings were left at stock.

Titan settings and clock speed.
titanh1.jpg


GTX 690 settings and clock speed
heaven6901.jpg


Titan Heaven 4 result
titanvgtx690.jpg


GTX 690 Heaven 4 result
gtx690vtitan.jpg

Just doing a simple calculation

Titan = 14 SMX
GTX 690 = 16 SMX

Titan Heaven score 1500
GTX 690 Heaven score 1707

(1500/14) x16 = 1714.29

Keeping it simple, it looks like the SMX modules are scaling pretty good with these cards. It also means working on the basis that the drivers are working pretty good for the GTX 690, that there is not a lot left in the Titans for future drivers to extract.

I have just done a run on a GTX 690 using just one core to see what happens without SLI scaling. I had to down clock it by 13mhz to get it running at exactly the same speed as the other two setups. (the two cores on a GTX 690 boost to slightly different speeds, but usually within 13mhz of each other).

Single GK104 core
gk104hs.jpg


Single GK104 Heaven score
gk104hss.jpg

Just doing a simple calculation

Titan = 14 SMX
GK104 = 8 SMX

Titan Heaven score 1500
GK104 Heaven score 866

(1500/14) x 8 = 857.14

Again another very close result and showing very good SMX module scaling.
 
FAO GTX690 users.

What's the best drivers for GTX690 currently? I haven't upgraded mine since i first installed it a few months back, 314.** i think.
Are there any gains with newer? Latest game i've played is Bioshock Infinite and ran perfectly fine so haven't really thought to look at newer.
Think i might do another 3DMark 2011 run so if there are better performing drivers for that then would like to know :)
 
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