Sapphire HD 7970 VAPOR-X GHZ coil whine

[Darujhistan]

It's normal, replacement will likely have the same issue.

Absolute nonsense.

 

[spixelspixel]

Absolute nonsense.

Once I come across a modern graphics card without coil whine then I'll agree with you. Coil whine most certainly is normal (very rarely it can be really bad though)

the sound mine makes

this is in game it was little louder last night seems less now tho

sorry about the video size lol

I consider that normal. Its up to you whether it bothers you or not. Other people seem to think its not normal, you can try RMA if you want but it mightn't be accepted. If it is then imo a replacement will likely sound the same (or not if you agree with others in this thread )

I've got 2 7950s with no coil whine. My system's completely watercooled.

Get over yourself, seriously.

Just because your system is watercooled doesn't mean you don't have coil whine. Radiators have fans too which can drown it out. I've tested so many graphics cards with different psu's/motherboards I really am 100 percent certain its on every one to some degree. The 7900 series cards tend to be louder than the nvidia 6 series, and older cards don't have it so bad.

There's not a single video on youtube of a 'coilwhineless' graphics card under load. Feel free to post one

Also a 2 month old graphics card cannot be DSR'd

 

[Tonester0011]

BloodZeed, i don't hear any noise other than fan noise

This is what my card sounded like and got accepted for RMA, not tested my RMA replacement though been having other cards on my test bench

My other three 7970s have been whine free though

 

[spixelspixel]

BloodZeed, i don't hear any noise other than fan noise

This is what my card sounded like and got accepted for RMA, not tested my RMA replacement though been having other cards on my test bench


My other three 7970s have been whine free though

That's pretty bad coil whine on your card, sounds like crackling!

The noise in the video he posted does show coil whine, quieter than normal compared to other 7970 cards I've seen. It actually sounds a bit like your background noise before valley is loaded :/

If I was him I wouldn't risk it as a replacement could be worse.

 

[Tonester0011]

That's pretty bad coil whine on your card, sounds like crackling!

The noise in the video he posted does show coil whine, quieter than normal compared to other 7970 cards I've seen. It actually sounds a bit like your background noise before valley is loaded :/

If I was him I wouldn't risk it as a replacement could be worse.

My background noise were the fans on that GPU iirc, pretty sure that video was taken after i setup my chiller loop (no fans, no noise)
Yeah that card was very bad, only took two weeks for the RMA with HIS. Bloods video doesn't sound like anything terrible, just fans imho...

That sounds funny, whine on an old PSU

Edit: Pretty sure that is a video on youtube of a whineless GPU....underload? amirite?

 

[spixelspixel]

Yeah that card was very bad, only took two weeks for the RMA with HIS. Bloods video doesn't sound like anything terrible, just fans imho...

That sounds funny, whine on an old PSU

He said it stops after closing a game though so its more likely coil whine. I know what you mean about the fans though, I've heard some that have a buzz to them.

Did you deal with HIS directly? Where did you have to send the card?

That video shows coil whine immediately after heaven starts Are you sure its coming from the psu? Sounds like graphics card whine to me, especially the way it gets higher pitched at the close menu (due to really high fps) If it was from the psu it would mask the graphics card whine so doesn't prove anything heheheh

Edit - I should look at the video instead of just listening, does seem to be coming from the psu area but could still be masking the noise from the gpu.

 

[Tonester0011]

He said it stops after closing a game though so its more likely coil whine. I know what you mean about the fans though, I've heard some that have a buzz to them.

Did you deal with HIS directly? Where did you have to send the card?

That video shows coil whine immediately after heaven starts Are you sure its coming from the psu? Sounds like graphics card whine to me, especially the way it gets higher pitched at the close menu (due to really high fps) If it was from the psu it would mask the graphics card whine so doesn't prove anything heheheh

Edit - I should look at the video instead of just listening, does seem to be coming from the psu area but could still be masking the noise from the gpu.

Defo the PSU mate, that's why i started to go over the GPU at the start of the video! to show it wasn't that.

I have that exact GPU on my bench atm, can fire up heaven just to show you if you wish

I've had more PSUs that coil whine than GPUs. My replacement 1200i is whines, i only really notice because its on an open test bench so when it's in my case on the floor it wont bother me too much.

OCUK, bought from here so might as well take advantage of them
Sent to OCUK they done everything for me, they send me the replacement and get free haribos what more could you ask for

 

[spixelspixel]

Defo the PSU mate, that's why i started to go over the GPU at the start of the video! to show it wasn't that.

I have that exact GPU on my bench atm, can fire up heaven just to show you if you wish

I've had more PSUs that coil whine than GPUs. My replacement 1200i is whines, i only really notice because its on an open test bench so when it's in my case on the floor it wont bother me too much.
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I've never had a single psu cause whine like that, but have had many gpu's that do. I was able to pinpoint on the cards every time. Does look like its coming from your power supply though :/

What motherboard do you have?

 

[Tonester0011]

RIVE now, but that was on a Z77 UD5H.

 

[spixelspixel]

I've only ever used Asrock and Asus motherboards, maybe that's where I'm going wrong

 

[Tonester0011]

I had an Asrock Extreme 9 it default my 3930k to 1.964v iirc, currently using an Asus (RIVE) brothers rig has an MSI and old rig obviously had a Gigabyte
Guess what, none of my motherboards have ever had coil whine!

 

[Jakus]

All switching power circuits will cause Hum, Buzz , from themselves or components attached to them....end off.

The point is many people can't and don't hear things, the discussion should be what's acceptable to the user. Also some modern cards render games so fast in menus etc you will get like frame buffer buzz, which a simple frame limiter will stop.

 

[humbug]

My background noise were the fans on that GPU iirc, pretty sure that video was taken after i setup my chiller loop (no fans, no noise)
Yeah that card was very bad, only took two weeks for the RMA with HIS. Bloods video doesn't sound like anything terrible, just fans imho...

That sounds funny, whine on an old PSU

Edit: Pretty sure that is a video on youtube of a whineless GPU....underload? amirite?

You giggling at the end of that, I lol'ed....

 

[Darujhistan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darujhistan
Absolute nonsense.
Once I come across a modern graphics card without coil whine then I'll agree with you. Coil whine most certainly is normal (very rarely it can be really bad though)


It's not normal, its rare. I have never had a coil whining card.

 

[spixelspixel]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darujhistan
Absolute nonsense.
Once I come across a modern graphics card without coil whine then I'll agree with you. Coil whine most certainly is normal (very rarely it can be really bad though)


It's not normal, its rare. I have never had a coil whining card.

Google 7970 coil whine, gtx 670 coil whine or whatever graphics card, because they all have it. It is perfectly normal and definitely not rare. Many people return cards for it and then the replacement is the same.

There might be a very slim chance that some people get cards with no whine, but if every card you owned has no coil whine then its likely that you just cant hear it.

 

[se_vietboi]

Coil whine is not supposed to be normal. Its supposed to be a problem. At any rate my card didn't have any.

 

[spixelspixel]

Coil whine is not supposed to be normal. Its supposed to be a problem. At any rate my card didn't have any.

It is normal. If you contact any graphics card company they will tell you that it is. A very odd time though a card can have extremely bad coil whine. Sometimes some people only notice it when its really bad, and other times people notice it when its quieter. It all depends if your looking out for it and ambient noise/noise from other fans.

This thread is an example of this. The op posted a video showing his coil whine and another user said he doesn't hear anything except fans. But OP can hear it, otherwise would not have made this thread or posted the video. It's all subjective, but coil whine is normal. Coils vibrate when the card is drawing a lot of power, there's no avoiding it.

 

[Final8y]

It is normal. If you contact any graphics card company they will tell you that it is. A very odd time though a card can have extremely bad coil whine. Sometimes some people only notice it when its really bad, and other times people notice it when its quieter. It all depends if your looking out for it and ambient noise/noise from other fans.

This thread is an example of this. The op posted a video showing his coil whine and another user said he doesn't hear anything except fans. But OP can hear it, otherwise would not have made this thread or posted the video. It's all subjective, but coil whine is normal. Coils vibrate when the card is drawing a lot of power, there's no avoiding it.

It not a about the literal of what's going on its about the level of what's go on and you have a hard time accepting that people cant get a GPU with coil whine that you have to be abnormally close to before it could be heard.

If i put my ear against the back of my LCD monitors i can hear a very faint whine, that is normal but if someone posted in the monitor section complaining about whine coming from the his or her monitor and asked if other users are suffering from It it would be perfectly all right for them to say no because it not about the literal facts of electronics, that's not the question its about when its gets to a level that it becomes a problem and that you should not be able to hear it with out getting ridiculously close and im my example having to put my ear on the back casing of the monitor.

There is always going to be people who cant notice things at a certain level that others can, that goes for all expects of senses, when CRT was the norm i could hear the noise that they made standing in the hall way with the living room door shut in most peoples houses at night, the amount of times i would come home from work and open the front door and know instantly that my GF at the time had come around and was sleeping on the couch with the TV on and the volume off.

As for as the one person not noticing coil whine from the OPs video could be down to comparison seeing as that persons own issue is far worse.

As far as what companies want to tell you at times it can be compete baloney.

Page 13 of the PSP manual puts it this way: "Red, blue, or green spots (bright spots) or black spots (dark spots) may appear in certain locations on the LCD screen. The appearance of such spots is a normal occurrence associated with LCD screens and not a sign of malfunction. LCD screens are made using highly precise technology. However, a very small number of dark pixels or continuously lit pixels exist on each screen."

Its a common occurrence but its still a defect and basically saying there is no threshold on how many you should put up with.

I don't even remember reading in a GPU Manuel that coil whine is a normal occurrence associated with GPUs [while it is] let alone stating that when its easily noticed its the norm and should be accepted.

 

[spixelspixel]

coil whine that you have to be abnormally close to before it could be heard.

Again this is subjective. I'm using a 7770 right now which you guessed it... has coil whine. It's much quieter than some other cards I've used since its lower powered but I can still hear it very easily, and I don't need to get abnormally close to it. I can hear it because my system is quiet. I have a passive power supply, the graphics card is passively cooled and my case fans run at very low rpm.

When someone makes a thread about coil whine, you can't assume its the extremely loud kind that definitely needs replacing.

As for OPs video, you won't find many 7970's with coil whine that quiet. If he listened to people saying 'coil whines not normal definitely rma' etc then he might have returned it and ended up with a worse card as loud coil whine is extremely common on 7970's.

How many RMA's do you think stores like ocuk and graphics cards manufacturers have to deal with due to this 'issue'? There is literally countless complaints about it. If it was possible to make cards without coil whine then that's how they'd be made, imagine how much money they'd save on returns.

Graphics cards have always been like this, its not a fault, just how they operate
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33824347

As far as I'm concerned people either

A - can't hear it due to other noises
B - hear it but put up with it, after all it normally only happens when gaming.
C - return the card, end up with another one which whines, enter an endless cycle of disappointment, finally accept it.
D - genuinely get an extremely loud one, returned and replacement is fine (albeit just with less coil whine which may or may not be inaudible to that user)

I've yet to see a single graphics card that is whine free, and I've been through so many its not even funny.

 

[Final8y]

Again this is subjective. I'm using a 7770 right now which you guessed it... has coil whine. It's much quieter than some other cards I've used since its lower powered but I can still hear it very easily, and I don't need to get abnormally close to it. I can hear it because my system is quiet. I have a passive power supply, the graphics card is passively cooled and my case fans run at very low rpm.

When someone makes a thread about coil whine, you can't assume its the extremely loud kind that definitely needs replacing.

As for OPs video, you won't find many 7970's with coil whine that quiet. If he listened to people saying 'coil whines not normal definitely rma' etc then he might have returned it and ended up with a worse card as loud coil whine is extremely common on 7970's.

How many RMA's do you think stores like ocuk and graphics cards manufacturers have to deal with due to this 'issue'? There is literally countless complaints about it. If it was possible to make cards without coil whine then that's how they'd be made, imagine how much money they'd save on returns.

Graphics cards have always been like this, its not a fault, just how they operate
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33824347

As far as I'm concerned people either

A - can't hear it due to other noises
B - hear it but put up with it, after all it normally only happens when gaming.
C - return the card, end up with another one which whines, enter an endless cycle of disappointment, finally accept it.
D - genuinely get an extremely loud one, returned and replacement is fine (albeit just with less coil whine which may or may not be inaudible to that user)

I've yet to see a single graphics card that is whine free, and I've been through so many its not even funny.

You missed the point and pulled it out of context.
Being able to hear whine from an LCD at normal sitting distance is not subjective, it unacceptable, being able to hear fan noise at a level and distance is subjective and certain audible levels should be accepted and the amount is subjective.
My 50" plasma i can clearly hear if i sit right in front of it, but its not normal to be that close so its accepted.
No one is going to moan about coil whine that you have to get unrealistic close to to hear and for the exception to the rule who likes to be silly about it, they would be told to take a run and jump.

All the videos shown had plenty of background noise and yet the coil whine was easily noticeable to most but yet you passed that off as normal and acceptable, what people are willing to accept is subjective including defects.