Sky raising prices again

orbit2012 said:
Thanks I will keep an eye out for the best offer. Any idea how long the cashback takes to come through?

I took out a phone contract with Tesco because of the cashback offer from Quidco and had to wait nearly 6months for the money to come back. not sure if this is the norm?
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as with all contracts they have cottoned on to the fact some people take out a contract and then cancel it after a few months.

i think you need to wait a long time for it to be paid out, as in most likely until the contract has ended or went past a certain milestone.

e.g.

say there was a £100 cashback on a mobile phone contract. i could take the phone, cancel the contract after 1 month, sell the phone for £500 and claim my £100 cashback too, essentially the phone company would have made a huge loss on this.

they now wait until the contract is seen out before paying out the cashback, because of people doing the above.

so long as it is a genuine claim, and you are going to stick it out, you should get the money after many months, it is a long time to wait, but better to wait for a couple hundred quid than get nothing right?

this is direct from quidco from sky's page

Estimated payment date
03 September
(if you purchase today)
Tracking speed
Less than 6 hours
(from purchase)
Tracking reliability
96.7% tracked
Cashback claim payment speed
Less than 4 months
(from submission date)

so its a 4 month wait for cashback, not as long as i thought.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
i haggled with them on the phone on 3 separate occasions for ages i mean at least 30 minutes.

they never once offered me a deal as good as what new customers get.

so i really am skeptical you got a new customer deal as an existing customer.

could you post a picture up of this deal?

as a new customer gets up to £300 cashback through sky for instance, which you need to take into consideration, as well as all the other new customer discounts, etc, etc, etc.

basically the VIP package for a new customer worked out to around £60 per month as a new customer, for existing the best they offered me was over £100.

VM had a new customer discount where it was everything half price for 12 months on an 18 month contract, which made everything stupidly cheap for new customers too. add cashback on top and it became essentially peanuts compared to existing customer pricing.

i even corrected the sales person on the phone several times by showing her that it was dearer for existing customers and i proved this by getting her to do the calculations with me on a calculator. her only response to that was but yeah new customers get locked into an 18 month contract, whereas you would only be on a 12 as an existing customer.

so basically she was saying i am paying more to be on a smaller contract, so new customers pay less and get a longer contract.

i then said do you really think i would prefer to pay £100 a month for the same service they get for £60 per month? i dont care how long the contract is, i care about the monthly cost for the same service.
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I phoned, said i was offered the "half price for 6 months deal" by a previous advisor and that i would like to progress with my renewal rather than switching to sky, she umm'd and arrr'd for a bit then started putting it through. I was even cheeky and upgraded to tivo and got 2 1tb tivo boxes free (multi room) as part of it.

So got the £90-100 package for £60 for 6 months and the free hardware.
 
dim_pwn said:
I phoned, said i was offered the "half price for 6 months deal" by a previous advisor and that i would like to progress with my renewal rather than switching to sky, she umm'd and arrr'd for a bit then started putting it through. I was even cheeky and upgraded to tivo and got 2 1tb tivo boxes free (multi room) as part of it.

So got the £90-100 package for £60 for 6 months and the free hardware.
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you got lucky, like i said i spoke to 3 different ones and i even had a call 1-2 weeks after i had put my notice in. so they knew i was leaving and yet they only offered me a few quid off the previous deal they had offered me.

they then enquired to the deal sky had offered me and she was flabbergasted. the only thing she could come up with was that i would no longer have high speed broadband with them, i said i dont care about broadband as that gets used mainly for streaming sports and downloading movies and shows which will now be a part of my new package, therefore i no longer need high speed broadband.

she didnt get that part so i basically said either beat the deal or continue with the cancellation, which then ended with her saying the cancellation will continue as planned.

even if they matched the deal i would have cancelled because of the near £300 of cashback i will get from sky. people always forget about cashback.
 
It says 'by up to ten percent'. This could mean Sky World rises by £1 which is nowhere near 10% but the base package rises by £2 which is 10%. In context people, in context. Wait and see.
 
Not disagreeing that sky aren't expensive, and VM and Sky both seem to give far better offers to new customers than reward loyalty, but cannot understand people arguing VM is that much cheaper like for like.

I keep looking at VM, but they don't do all 4 sports channels in HD, there's no Sky Atlantic (Mad Men and GOT best things on TV at the moment imo) or F1 in HD (OK half the races are on the beep but hardly equal coverage). Even if I take those hits, the standard costs on VM for same package I have on Sky is almost the same to the point (78 versus 79 inc line rental - although admittedly VM would be 13 quid cheaper for 6 months).

EDIT - that seems to be the VM basic 'M" package -going to the XL+ with the Sky channels and more HD it rises £98 a month, 85 for the first six - making Sky look good value!
 
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grahamjenks said:
Not disagreeing that sky aren't expensive, and VM and Sky both seem to give far better offers to new customers than reward loyalty, but cannot understand people arguing VM is that much cheaper like for like.

I keep looking at VM, but they don't do all 4 sports channels in HD, there's no Sky Atlantic (Mad Men and GOT best things on TV at the moment imo) or F1 in HD (OK half the races are on the beep but hardly equal coverage). Even if I take those hits, the standard costs on VM for same package I have on Sky is almost the same to the point (78 versus 79 inc line rental - although admittedly VM would be 13 quid cheaper for 6 months).

EDIT - that seems to be the VM basic 'M" package -going to the XL+ with the Sky channels and more HD it rises £98 a month, 85 for the first six - making Sky look good value!
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they are both the same imo but have different advantages and disadvantages


lets take Sky for a start

much better tv package
lot more channels and HD versions of them as well
sky go

now take virgin media

120MB broadband with 12 MB upload


prices are similar, reason why VM are slightly more expensive is due to the broadband side of things, they are the market leader and it is their broadband which really boosts the price up as well as their line rental and phone packages.

i am actually moving away from VM to Sky, but in 12 months i shall move back to VM then 18 months after that back to Sky, but that is simply because new customers get the best deals and cashback.

up to £300 cashback for switching is enough reason to switch imo, thats like an extra £25 per month off your bill on top of the new customer deals and discounts.

putting that into perspective my sky package is only £40 per month for the full monty, everything i could have apart from ESPN, i mean i have multiroom as well as the full package, movies, sports, hd, extra +, sky go extra, BB unlimited and talk unlimited for £40 per month after cashback.
 
If I were VM, I'd get you all on board with nice offers, and then hike prices by 10% early next year...

For the TV I watch Sky is the best, so jumping around isn't an option.

For anyone looking to change their packages, beware of Sky's new package structures. You might end up losing channels you didn't expect.
 
Unless sky can offer me a much better deal, I'm going to leave when I move house. Especially as all the sport that I watch has moved to BT!
 
This is nuts - my brother pays so much for sky and its going to increase now too!

I got rid of it two years ago and the only thing i miss is the f1 channel - everything else i watch is on freeview
 
panyan said:
This is nuts - my brother pays so much for sky and its going to increase now too!

I got rid of it two years ago and the only thing i miss is the f1 channel - everything else i watch is on freeview
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eh ? according to the wiki the F1 Channel started March 2012. If you got rid of Sky two years ago you cant have watched Sky's F1 Channel so how do you miss it if you never had it ?
 
Skeeter said:
BT Sport 1 and 2 is free on Sky if you have BT Broadband.
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yep already signed up and the channels are showing in my sky guide with promo programmes on.

When my half price sky finishes next year I`ll cancel and go bt youview prob.

(hush hush just signed up for BT Sport/Youview trial starting this month).
 
TALON1973 said:
i don't think they are allowed to rise it by 10% legally .. it's in line with inflation max i'm pretty certain
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Sky said:
Here's the legal bit
Sky TV prices will increase on 1 September. In accordance with our standard terms, prices may rise by up to 10% in the initial contract term.
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My contract runs out on 19th June, thinking of cancelling and going freesat.

Plusnet broadband have quoted 66mb fibre broadband for the same price i pay for 40mb with sky (and 6 months half price in 18 month contract).
 
Luckily I'm out of contract with sky. Just installed a free trial of netflix and lovefilm, and might downgrade sky to a much cheaper package anyway.
Most of the channels on sky I never watch. Its just become a very expensive habit.
 
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