"‘Get the bacon sarnies out’ remark cost Heywood IT contractor dream job "

I'm still gobsmacked that....

I will come over to meet you on site with the other contractors and take you all for breakfast

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I will buy the bacon sandwiches

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Regardless of what was said during any phonecalls, which should never have been made to begin with.
 
Would she have been so offended if her surname didn't rhyme with sarnie?

Sacranie Sacranie
Why dost thou
not want a bacon
sarnie oh sarnie!
 
OcUK posters showing their closet racist tendencies as usual. :o (not referring to the above post FWIW, although as far as I know it's OK for a Muslim to be pictured with alcohol in the background from which you've surmised she is an "alcohol swigging bitch")

I hardly think it is racist for people to highlight that if she is so offended by the bacon then it is interesting she is not so offended by alcohol. With the caveat a) it doesn't demonstrate she drinks alcohol b) not all Muslims have constraints on alcohol.

I think it is a fair point - why be so potentially offended by one thing and not the other. Surely if she has no issues with alcohol she is more open minded than some and therefore would make allowances for others to be the same.

I still believe he lost the job for what he said after though rather than the bacon comment.
 
An awful lot of failure in this sorry situation.

She shouldn't have complained about an off the cuff remark that seems to have no racist intent.
Her manager should have told her to stop being silly.
The guy should have been more professional over the phone.

None of them come out of it looking overly professional.

Well, the manager had a duty to look into the report of a racist comment. They have been tasked with finding a suitable employee for the NHS and id imagine part of that making sure the person isnt an open racist.

Having had a report of racism, he called the guy to task his side of the story and find out what went out. Then the bloke flips his lid.

Obviously we didnt hear the phone conversation but the guy kinda supports the managers side of the story by confirming he got heated and raged on the phone.

We also dont know the full story about the woman herself. Its great to shout about how terrible muslims are but we dont know what was said. She could have been reporting to her boss and simply said something like 'it was a good meeting but he said something at the end that might be interpreted as racist' and then the manager followed up on it to ask his side..
 
I doubt that. He probably did give his side of the story, then was still being forced to apologised. At that point i think its understandable if he might get angry.

Frankly they probably just did not like him, and it was just an excuse.

I can tell you now recruitment offices have a very macho culture and a lot more offensive stuff than that gets said by staff.
 
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It's only ****ing bacon*. He wasn't making her eat it.


* Food of the Goddess to me but I don't get all offended if a limp **** vegetarian suggests getting the tofu sarnies in.
 
Well, the manager had a duty to look into the report of a racist comment. They have been tasked with finding a suitable employee for the NHS and id imagine part of that making sure the person isnt an open racist.

Having had a report of racism, he called the guy to task his side of the story and find out what went out. Then the bloke flips his lid.

Obviously we didnt hear the phone conversation but the guy kinda supports the managers side of the story by confirming he got heated and raged on the phone.

We also dont know the full story about the woman herself. Its great to shout about how terrible muslims are but we dont know what was said. She could have been reporting to her boss and simply said something like 'it was a good meeting but he said something at the end that might be interpreted as racist' and then the manager followed up on it to ask his side..

So are you saying there is a slim chance that she might not be an 'Alcohol swigging bitch that is pretending to be Muslim' then?
That means I can't get angry anymore and keep foaming about people doing things in 'my' country that I say they shouldn't be allowed to do :(

Meanie
 
I doubt that. He probably did give his side of the story, then was still being forced to apologised. At that point i think its understandable if he might get angry.

Frankly they probably just did not like him, and it was just an excuse.

I can tell you know recruitment offices have a very macho culture and a lot more offensive stuff than that gets said by staff.

I dont think its fair to make any kind of assumptions like that. There arent two sides of the story regarding the event itself, he said it. Thats not in dispute and he wasnt denying it. We dont know what went on in that conversation as its his word against the managers.

If they simply didnt like him, they would have done something before the very final meeting to sign documents.
 
It's only ****ing bacon*. He wasn't making her eat it.


* Food of the Goddess to me but I don't get all offended if a limp **** vegetarian suggests getting the tofu sarnies in.

I f you insist on belittling Tofu (food of the all mighty bear from planet zog) then I must request you be banned from the internet.
 
off topic but

I hate the daily mail... and not because I'm worried about coverage of immigrants, the unemployed or Princess Diana but whenever I click on a story someone has linked to I then waste time as I *have* to browse about 6 or 7 other stories featuring some random pseudo-celebrity women, on holiday, in their bikinis... literally every time... the daily mail never seems to fail in regularly delivering pictures of quite reasonable looking 'celebrities' in bikinis on holiday....

I wouldn't ordinarily know who the stars of various soaps are or who Tulisa was - yet I knew exactly who she was prior to the drugs story as I'd seen various pics of her, on holiday, on the daily fail website

Also the website, judging by the comments, appears to be reasonably popular with American readers....
 
Anything to prove that statement or are you just making baseless allegations?

I said he probably is.

As I said before, anyone who has to qualify their existence by using the phrase 'I'm not racist....' usually are.

He comes across to me as a wholly unprofessional, quite unlikeable person and simply the fact he would even run to the papers to promote his unprofessionalism under the guise of being badly done to says enough about him, not least the fact he'd even consider the DM, which is game over.
 
Well if reed or whoever called me up and said look mate you should say sorry or whatever then i'd be telling them to shut it. It's just another case of Muslim pandering.


No, it's just stupidity. If you are trying to get a job, ticking off the recruitment agency is a REALLY stupid thing to do. By all means stand up for principles, but try to pick some sensible ones. And I agree with those who say: there's something missing here from this story.
 
And do you have proof to back that one up too?

Unfortunately yes. I tend to come across bigotry of some description on virtually a daily basis and a common denominator of such bigotry is the 'I'm not..... but.....' line.

There should be no reason for anyone to qualify themselves like that. If someone truly isn't racist or homophobic or whatever, they will never feel compelled to tell people that fact. Usually, the person who is, but wants to justify it, uses the line our Mr C Hunt did here.
 
Unfortunately yes. I tend to come across bigotry of some description on virtually a daily basis and a common denominator of such bigotry is the 'I'm not..... but.....' line.

There should be no reason for anyone to qualify themselves like that. If someone truly isn't racist or homophobic or whatever, they will never feel compelled to tell people that fact. Usually, the person who is, but wants to justify it, uses the line our Mr C Hunt did here.

Could you link this proof please? I'd like to read your source.
 
Unfortunately yes. I tend to come across bigotry of some description on virtually a daily basis and a common denominator of such bigotry is the 'I'm not..... but.....' line.

And that ladies and gentlemen is the essence of prejudice.

See a group - see a real or imagine quality you associate with that group.
See someone who is in that group - presume they hold that quality.

Well done!
 
Well, the manager had a duty to look into the report of a racist comment. They have been tasked with finding a suitable employee for the NHS and id imagine part of that making sure the person isnt an open racist.

As the comment doesn't seem to be racist then his duty could just as easily be covered by saying "I think you may be over-reacting to an off the cuff remark".

We also dont know the full story about the woman herself. Its great to shout about how terrible muslims are but we dont know what was said.

I don't recall saying that at all?


She could have been reporting to her boss and simply said something like 'it was a good meeting but he said something at the end that might be interpreted as racist' and then the manager followed up on it to ask his side..

I dont think its fair to make any kind of assumptions like that.
 
Unfortunately yes. I tend to come across bigotry of some description on virtually a daily basis and a common denominator of such bigotry is the 'I'm not..... but.....' line.

There should be no reason for anyone to qualify themselves like that. If someone truly isn't racist or homophobic or whatever, they will never feel compelled to tell people that fact. Usually, the person who is, but wants to justify it, uses the line our Mr C Hunt did here.

he was being accused of being racist. What should have he said? Im racist?

In my experiance I.T contractors tend to be on aspergers scale. People with high level autism tend be the least racist people you can get, but they tend to be bad at social skills. Thats what has happened.
 
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