Living on light & water...

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A Seattle woman is attempting to go 100 days without eating to prove that humans can "live on light".

Naveena Shine says she believes it is possible for human beings to survive without food and is conducting what she describes as an experiment to prove it.

The 65-year-old, originally from Birmingham in the UK, has been consuming just water and "one, maybe two cups of tea a day" for the past 41 days, losing 30lbs in the process. Other people have previously claimed to be able to survive without food and and water, although no one has ever proven it to be possible and some have died attempting it.

Taken from an article in the Guardian

You know, the world would be a duller place without card carrying eccentrics coming up with off the wall ideas, how ever, that being said, there really is a fine line between eccentricity & out 'n' lunacy, & having read the article & what Madam Shine has to say on the subject, i'm pretty damn convinced she's an out 'n' out loon. :p
 
I'd bet on the latter...

Well, there's this:

"It is said by scientists that all matter comes from light. All matter," she said.

Which is definitely not true. False appeal to authority. Maybe she believes it, though.

She's getting some attention from it, which is a strong motive for lying. She's not under any observation, so she could easily eat without anyone knowing. I'm not willing to bet either way yet.
 
Losing 30lbs in the process, and there is your answer... its actually been a while and I've forgotten how many calories a pound is, I'm remembering it being 3500 or something but I can't be arsed to check it.

Either way, "eating" is one thing, your body consuming energy is another, food is one source of energy, so is fat. She's "consumed" from one source or another 30x 3500 calories in this 100 days. Which is over 1000 calories a day of body fat, which is more than some people eat... okay some of that will be water but not much.

people think of food too one dimensionally, body fat is treated as a "food" source. Person A carrys around 30lbs of fat internally, and eats nothing for 100 days, person B carrys around 30lbs of fat in a bag and eats 1166 calories worth a day for 100 days.... no difference to the body, just where the body takes that energy from.

its worth noting with the guy who fasted for a year(if its to be believed) that he took vitamins, because while the body can burn fat quite easily, on a reduced food intake, you reduce your intake of a variety of vitamins and minerals the body uses to actually burn fat for energy and to release body fat. Without the vitamins to give his body a supply of some fairly crucial things for burning the body fat, he would likely have barely gotten a couple of weeks.

For me, a vitamin is a food, and counts as intake, and was the difference between him being able to fast for that long, and not. Some people are very single minded in what they regard as food. I simply consider that for instance beef, and chicken aren't the same, no one considers them the same, but they are basically made up of the same things once broken down which is what your body uses. Vitamins, protein shakes, its all the same stuff, just in a different package. If plenty of foods with near identical nutrients can look so different in their packaging(chicken, turkey, whatever), then I really fail to see how everything the body uses for nutritional content with the same base parts isn't all considered food.

Essentially we have the woman discussed in the first post and the linked article showing two people eating body fat for a prolonged period of time. Someone without 30lbs, or the other guy, a couple hundred, to lose can't fast for a prolonged period.
 
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Tea is a Diuretic, that doesn't seem smart. It is Tea leaf tea right?

Tea consumption does not produce a negative diuretic effect unless the amount of tea consumed at one sitting contains more than 300mg of caffeine. At an average 50mg of caffeine per cup, this is equivalent to six cups of tea at one sitting.
 
I did the same when I was younger, went almost 90 days without food, as I wanted to lose weight.

I lost 3 stone, became ill a lot easier, had problems with my liver and also had fainting spells a few times a day!

Would never recommend anyone doing it!
 
I did the same when I was younger, went almost 90 days without food, as I wanted to lose weight.

I lost 3 stone, became ill a lot easier, had problems with my liver and also had fainting spells a few times a day!

Would never recommend anyone doing it!

not that much to be honest, you could probably of lost 3 stone eating and excising well. surprising. Your mental though? did your family / friends not try to talk you out of it?
 
Tea consumption does not produce a negative diuretic effect unless the amount of tea consumed at one sitting contains more than 300mg of caffeine.

If you are going to quote something at least make sure the person you are quoting knows what they are on about.

What you've quoted is saying tea does not cause water retention until the amount consumed blah blah blah. Which is clearly wrong.


Oh and she going to die.
 
Breatharianism is a related concept, in which believers claim food and possibly water are not necessary, and that humans can be sustained solely by prana (the vital life force in Hinduism), or, according to some, by the energy in sunlight (according to Ayurveda, sunlight is one of the main sources of prana). The terms breatharianism or inedia may also refer to this philosophy practised as a lifestyle in place of the usual diet.

The consensus of the scientific community is that "breatharianism" is potentially lethal pseudoscience, and indeed several adherents of these practices have died from starvation

Breatharianism and sun gazing :rolleyes: There are people that actually believe in this stuff. Most of them are (un)fortunately dead. Too much wacky backy I think.
 
not that much to be honest, you could probably of lost 3 stone eating and excising well. surprising. Your mental though? did your family / friends not try to talk you out of it?

Each month i was losing a stone, which is quite a shock to the system.

Family didn't know as i was working long hours, told them everything was fine until i was taken in due to my liver!

And yes i was mental when i was younger :p
 
And when she dies her family will find a lawyer and try to sue The Sun in a comical misunderstanding.

Oh America, how you amuse thee.
 
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