ISPs to include porn filters as default in the UK by 2014

My first look at porn was a magazine my friend stole from his dad. It was soft core porn. These days a 10 year old can type one word in to google and a few clicks later, see absolutely anything.

If it was just about blocking porn then I think an opt in restriction would be better. There is no need to make it an opt out restriction. If it was opt in then it would be basically a network level porn filter. Which would not be censorship etc. But when its an opt out, you just know it has alternative motives behind it.
 
maccapacca said:
Look outside your little world, some parents don't know what an ISP is, how their router works, how the internet works or anything about PCs how are they meant to be able to install and monitor software when they wouldn't know the first the thing about it all.
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Not my problem that they can't be bothered to find more information about what they're giving their children access to. All these things are either common knowledge or easily learned about from just about anywhere.

If they can't be bothered to do this, then they should be ready to accept any negative consequences. Just as they should in any aspect of their child's development. And if they can't do that, then they shouldn't be allowed to have children.

Why don't we ban violent imagery in films and on TV/the news? Because we expect that parents will be able to do their job. You don't give a child an 18-rated film, if you do, then that's your responsibility.
 
The conversation isn't going to go:

"I would like to have access to porn please"
"Ok.. bye"

They've come up with this master plan because sex offenders have a history of viewing porn before they commit sex crimes. Or so they say. So expect them to ask which type of porn you want :rolleyes:

Basically, they've generalised that "porn is bad mmmkay".
 
people arnt looking at the bigger picture more like a smoke screen using blocking this and that its all money orientated.

money controls everything so create a hot topic which people will back and get to work on going towards what is really the goal.
 
DeviantArt blocked then? Google blocked? BBC iPlayed blocked when they show a film with nudity? It's lunacy. It should just be a simple question asked by ISPs, are there any people living in the house under 18? If yes follow up by asking if they would like to have parental guidance filter put in place, else you leave their internet the **** alone.

You have to remember that the majority of the people that produce internet porn (not the teen stars) grew up without the internet so this link between internet porn and growing up perverted is inherently flawed.
 
Porn is just the excuse that enables them to use the "Vote Prop 10 or you hate children" technique.

What this is for is to ensure that an unelected and unaccountable group has control over web access for everyone by default. Since it's done at the ISP, it's far harder to work around than filters installed on individual machines. They've already said that they will repeatedly turn the censorship on if you do turn it off, and that's just at the start. It'll be always-on sooner or later, and right from day 1 it won't be just porn. Porn is just the excuse because it stifles opposition.

They will, of course, be gathering the details of all of those who turn the filters off. Anyone who is disobedient is suspicious and must have something to hide!

I don't see what can be done about it, though. Labour is just as authoritarian, if not more so. Privacy is a dying concept and freedom will follow it to the grave.
 
problem is we've likely got a fair few politicians here in the UK who's views on the issue are likely along the lines of this Irish politician:

 
This is a completely pointless exercise. If someone (even a kid) wants to view porn, they'll find it. Porn isn't just on "Porn sites" nowadays.

Nevertheless, it's probably just a cover up to install a blocking system in the first place. Porn will be the first to be blocked, but what next? Sounds like the beginning of the end of the free internet world we have all grown up with. But more importantly, anything that gets blocked will just be pushed "underground", where the government will likely have little to no say in the matter.
 
On one hand, we've just became a little less free. On the other, dem oldies gonna be out lived. Wonder how the .gov is planning to keep up with encrypted traffic and nested networks though.
 
*VIRGIN MEDIA BRING BACK MY PASTY!!!!! I WANNA SMASAASSHH IT*

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Screw that, I pay for the internet and sky in my house so I will make the phone call straight away.

"Hi yes you are taking away my fap time, I want it back. Yes I realize this is a recorded phone call but what you fail to realize is that I'm tugging one out right now because you deprived me!"
 
I have a feeling that the whole "blocking porn" thing is just an excuse for the corporations (and governments) to get their foot in the door and start blocking other sites they don't like.

First they'll block porn, then terrorist sites, hate sites, piracy sites, and so on, then after a few years they'll start using the media to label people who disable the block as "potential terrorists" and "perverts".

We've given them too much power over us, it's all about control.
 
Something Else said:
Screw that, I pay for the internet and sky in my house so I will make the phone call straight away.

"Hi yes you are taking away my fap time, I want it back. Yes I realize this is a recorded phone call but what you fail to realize is that I'm tugging one out right now because you deprived me!"
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"I'm going to use this number as a sex chat line until you unblock my porn!"
 
Pixel said:
I have a feeling that the whole "blocking porn" thing is just an excuse for the corporations (and governments) to get their foot in the door and start blocking other sites they don't like.

First they'll block porn, then terrorist sites, hate sites, piracy sites, and so on, then after a few years they'll start using the media to label people who disable the block as "potential terrorists" and "perverts".

We've given them too much power over us, it's all about control.
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Except this doesn't make sense, they are already blocking child porn, piracy sites, terrorist sites.
 
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