500 Abarth - Buying tips?

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My GF is looking to buy a 500 Abarth in the next month or so and has been to look at a few today (Wasn't there so can't comment on what she saw but one was an esseesse, totally shagged interior and she didn't even bother to drive it) but she wants me to help her find the right one.

Is there any particular problem areas to check on these cars, essential options or anything?

Her budget is up to around £9k but could be slightly stretched if it was special and obviously an Esseesse is preferred however not essential.

Thanks :)
 
I've spoken to a few people about these of late and the common view is they become tiresome on long runs and bounce around a lot on motorways, feel and are very small for luggage etc and have poor interior quality. They are fun for a short period of time but after a while their limits show themselves.
 
Yeah that's one thing I've read aswell is that comfort is a factor but in reality I don't think she particularly cares, her mileage isn't all that high and it's mostly town driving so not many long motorway stints. If we need to carry much else that can't fit in the 500 we have the Fiesta so not entirely limited.

She's only previously owned a 1.2 Clio and 1.4 Punto so I think fun is at the top of her priority list :cool:
 
I've read that there have been some paint issues on some cars, particularly front and rear bumpers. Also with the chrome trims which are actually flimsy plastic, and can distort and detach in hot weather. I'll see if I can dig out where I read it. Friend had red Arbrath, with paint fault.
 
Just put a deposit on one last weekend and collect on Saturday, can't wait! They seem to be a good "fun" car whilst still having reasonable running costs.

One thing I was originally looking for was a car with the red leather but they all seem to have worn quite badly so the cloth appears to be a better option.

Esse Esse is good if you can find one as it was a £2k+ option with fancy wheels/suspension/remap. However if you check out TMC motorsport they do all sorts of remaps and kits etc if it takes your fancy.

Other than that I can't be much more help but it might be worth checking out the abarthisti forum, lots of info on there!
 
I have had an Abarth 500 EsseEsse as my daily driver for 7 months and it has been great. I do 40 miles each day over A and B roads so no motorways. As Housey said these cars are not made for motorways. There is no 6th gear and due to their shot wheel base and stiff suspension they can bounce around a bit in standard form.

There were quite a few performance options offered with the Abarth:

1)The EsseEsse Pack – This offers a BMC air filters, re-mapped engine (to 155bhp but most will make 160bhp), 17” alloys, drilled and vented front discs, drilled rear discs, brembo pads, lowering springs and some tyre pressure sensors. (~£2750)

2)Koni Dampers – Adds Koni FSD dampers to each corner (~£700)

3)Monza Exhaust – Mild steel sports exhaust which supposedly adds 5bhp through the rev range but does not increase peak powers. It also sounds quite nice. (~£850)

4)Sabelt Seats – Bucket seats in both cloth and leather (~£1300 and ~£1800)

The general consensus is that if you get an EsseEsse the suspension is just too hard. I drove a standard EsseEsse and also found this which is why getting one with the Koni upgrade was essential for me. The Konis smooth out the ride and make the car much nicer to drive as well as giving it a lot more control when cornering.

Sport mode in these cars is great as it actually does something. The weight of the steering is increased, the engine map completely changes and throttle response in increased. The turbo comes on much quicker so you can get quite a bit of wheel spin if you are not careful. For driving enjoyment I actually prefer this to my old Z4 coupe.

Build quality wise they are pretty good. Mine feels well put together but the plastics that are not in immediate view are quite cheap. I personally would go for one with cloth seats as they will hold you better (the bolsters in the standard seats are not very big and you will slid about in the leather seats). Luggage space is fine for my needs but as with a car of this size the boot space is quite limited. The rear seats can however be folded down to make much more room if required.

One of the main things to look for when buying one of these (as well as all the usual used car buying stuff) is that the car has been serviced correctly. As the car has a small engine producing a relatively large amount of power for its size (96bhp per litre standard/114bhp per litre EsseEsse) it needs to be serviced on time. Standard cars have an oil service every 7k (6k in the EsseEsse) or once per year (cost me about £80) and every 18k (major service). Also, there are rumours that fiat dealers wont service a car that is still in warranty, they have to be taken to an Abarth dealer. I'm not sure if this is true as I have always had mine serviced at an Abarth dealer but it may be worth finding out what the situation is in your area.

Running costs are pretty good. The stated 42mpg is achievable but you have to drive like a grandma with sport mode off. I'm averaging about 38mpg in mine. As I mentioned above servicing isn't too bad and consumables are also quite cheap. Also it is worth noting that the engine runs a lot smoother with Shell V-Power (this surprised me as it hasn't made much of a noticeable difference on any of my other cars).

The other thing to look out for is abused examples. As these cars are great fun to drive in a spirited fashion some people just push them too far. Check the font tyres as they can be worn down very quickly if the car has been driven poorly and is a good sign if the car has been thrashed.

For your budget of £9k I think you will struggle to find a nice EsseEsse. As such I would look for a nicer standard model. The best thing you can do is go and drive some. Look at some nice examples and to poor ones to you can judge the differences.

If you have any questions let me know :)
 
I've spoken to a few people about these of late and the common view is they become tiresome on long runs and bounce around a lot on motorways, feel and are very small for luggage etc and have poor interior quality. They are fun for a short period of time but after a while their limits show themselves.

He's asking about buying a car, not getting another girlfriend :p
 
He's asking about buying a car, not getting another girlfriend :p

Haha :D

Thanks for the great post WizardSkills, just forwarded it to her so hopefully give her food for thought.

Quick question about the seats, is there any half leather alternative? Sounds like that'd be the best option ideally, my ST is half leather and in reality it's much more practical than the full leather ones I've been in.
 
Haha :D

Thanks for the great post WizardSkills, just forwarded it to her so hopefully give her food for thought.

Quick question about the seats, is there any half leather alternative? Sounds like that'd be the best option ideally, my ST is half leather and in reality it's much more practical than the full leather ones I've been in.

No, I don't think there was in the normal seats. The Sabelt ones came in a few different variations and one of those was half leather:

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There are some photos of mine in here if you are interested.

http://s3.photobucket.com/user/wizardskills/slideshow/Abarth 500
 
My Abarth was impressive on fuel, getting nearly 40mpg over my two years of ownership. That was with quite a lot of tuning work done.

Great car. Steering sucks, ride is pretty awful, interior plastics cheap. Goes well, sounds amazing (Monza exhaust), loved it. Looking to buy another at some point. Koni FSD's might be a sound investment to hell sort out ride issues.
 
I've spoken to a few people about these of late and the common view is they become tiresome on long runs and bounce around a lot on motorways, feel and are very small for luggage etc and have poor interior quality. They are fun for a short period of time but after a while their limits show themselves.

That is pretty much the definition of a little city car made by fiat :D
 
Ok the idea Abarth idea has gone right out of the window, she's picking up an '11 plate Zetec S with just 9k on the clock this weekend, Mountune probably next year :)

Thanks to those who helped with info on the Abarth!
 
What changed her mind?

She always wanted a Fiesta and today she had her first test drive, she loved the way it drove and says she found it more of a complete package compared to the Abarth she tested, obviously the performance and sense of occasion between the two are miles apart but in the end after testing both back to back she fell for the Fez more :)
 
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