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i5-750 to Haswell?

thanks for the suggestion pasty, I'll try setting loose timings, see if I can get IMC voltage down. I'd be a lot happier giving it fewer volts!

Edit: And I agree on voltages, auto was doing bad things previously with my CPU voltages!
 
Your cpu oced to 4ghz should be fine for now with a gtx670 however if you were to go SLI then you may want to get the upgrade...my 680s seem bottlenecked a fair amount at times at 4ghz even on my i7 920.(going for a 4770k setup next week hopefully.)
 
~>Dg<~ said:
quite bit of difference some will agree some wont.

even to a i3570k for eg in a lot of things can be upto twice as fast

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=701

so its a good upgrade to haswell.
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That's comparing the i5 750 at 2.66Ghz v i5 3570K at 3.4Ghz so of course there is going to be a difference.

At same clock speeds the difference would be minimal in most things.

Overclocking of course will make a difference for both.

It's a nice upgrade but one which probably isn't needed.
 
thats stock ve stock so when both oc probably be about same difference plus the new intels will clock higher anyway so it still is a good boost over what he has. in some games alone in games like wow upto 40 fps boost shows the difference.

noticed you have a i5 750 also. its a big increase in certain games some will say different some will agree but bench them and see.
 
Where do we see the improvement? I've only looked at the likes of the physics test in firestrike which shows no difference at all, neither the 2500k nor the 3570k outperforming the i5 750. (Distinct lack of Haswells to compare with)

What benches/uses can we see a big difference in?

Edit: Of course the 2500k & later start higher and go higher still while drawing less power, just on a per-clock basis I'm unconvinced there is a massive gulf.

Edit2: So found some benches comparing the 750 with 2500k and 3570k and it looks like per-clock they're fairly similar overall, there are some places where it swings wildly one way or the other. The newer ones do win out, but the gap seems small (about 6% from 750 to 3570k on the overall performance comparison done per clock) however I've no idea if the links are particularly trustworthy. 750 - 2500k 750 - 3570k
 
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Really? Well I have one from personal experience and that is that cine bench on my 4.4 ghz 920 gets around 7.5. Whereas the 4770k gets 8 at stock. And around 10 overclocked.

It is hard to find clock to clock benchmarks. I'll give you some more when I get the 4770 up and running.

In 3d mark 11 physics. The newer architectures were a lot higher than my old i7, even with the ram dialled up to 2100sih
 
Wonder if Wocky got his rig sorted or bailed out to Haswell.

I've got my i5 mooching along at 4GHz on 1.36v (voltage requirements really ramp up close to and past 4) I really doubt my gaming experience will be transformed by the same clock on a newer chip even if there is a few % increase in performance per clock.

Reality is my i5 750 is 150% of its stock clock speed so jumping to a new processor seeking performance is highly likely to be nothing more than a sideways move.
 
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I think i need a new Motherboard, my CPU is game and stress test stable at 4ghz at 1.3v but for some strange reason light tasks like certain flash websites or simply saving images in photoshop are causing the pc to lockup hard and its not like a normal lack of voltage freeze as when it freezes all my USB devices lose power and the reset and power buttons are non responsive, i have to flip off the power switch on the PSU.

EDIT: Now im confused, turning off Load-Line Calibration seems to have fixed these freezes:confused:
 
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David Bisset said:
Where do we see the improvement? I've only looked at the likes of the physics test in firestrike which shows no difference at all, neither the 2500k nor the 3570k outperforming the i5 750. (Distinct lack of Haswells to compare with)

What benches/uses can we see a big difference in?

Edit: Of course the 2500k & later start higher and go higher still while drawing less power, just on a per-clock basis I'm unconvinced there is a massive gulf.

Edit2: So found some benches comparing the 750 with 2500k and 3570k and it looks like per-clock they're fairly similar overall, there are some places where it swings wildly one way or the other. The newer ones do win out, but the gap seems small (about 6% from 750 to 3570k on the overall performance comparison done per clock) however I've no idea if the links are particularly trustworthy. 750 - 2500k 750 - 3570k
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i poste a benchmark earlier showing with a i3570k vs your cpu is was close to twice as fast at stock. in many programs.

in some games its close to 40-50 fps difference. i dont get where you pull 6 percent from lol.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
i poste a benchmark earlier showing with a i3570k vs your cpu is was close to twice as fast at stock. in many programs.

in some games its close to 40-50 fps difference. i dont get where you pull 6 percent from lol.
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The statement was clock for clock, not at stock which are very different things, the 750 being 2.66GHz to your 3.4GHz.

If you read the post that you quoted I say that the later ones are much faster at stock ('start much higher'), and that in some benches the difference is much bigger ('swings wildly') but that overall the difference doesn't seem to be that big per clock

The reason for querying clock-for-clock was the discussion between the1gooner and james_2k which I found surprising so I was asking more about. I was interested to find out where the differences would be bigger and smaller, and to an extent I found my own answers via the links I posted in the post you quoted.

Edit: To explain the 6% to you: The i5 750 vs 3570k review here shows stock difference being 36% overall in the 3570k's favour. I can't tell if that is a great figure to base anything on, but as the best I've got I'll use it. Thats 3.4 to 2.66 GHz though, so that comes to exactly 6.4% difference per clock. I rounded this to 6%.
 
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~>Dg<~ said:
thats stock ve stock so when both oc probably be about same difference plus the new intels will clock higher anyway so it still is a good boost over what he has. in some games alone in games like wow upto 40 fps boost shows the difference.

noticed you have a i5 750 also. its a big increase in certain games some will say different some will agree but bench them and see.
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For gaming it really depends on what graphics card is being used. I have a 6870 and upgrading to a faster cpu setup is not going to make any difference as my 6870 is a major bottleneck.

So my i5 760 and say a 7950 is going to be much better for gaming than a Haswell setup whilst keeping my 6870.

It really is about getting the balance right between cpu and gpu with the gpu being much more important for gaming than what platform it is installed in.
 
Hi everyone, thought I'd pop in with my own 750 experience. Been a great little chip, have had it at various clocks over its life but currently at 3.89 with vcore set at 1.3375 (showing 1.312 actual) and QPI/VTT set at 1.21. From looking here, looks like my chip isn't a fantastic clocker, but it does well enough :)

Haven't had a problem in terms of graphics performance, I'm currently running a 7950. Not sure I'd see much of a subjective difference if I switched to Haswell if I'm honest, although purely on benchmarks it might be a different story. I'm personally keeping my 750 until the next generation, that should be enough of a jump.
 
There's no difference or need to upgrade to sandy or haswell unless you're running high end cards and are bottlenecked.

I recently sourced a p55 board the gigabyte p55 -A-UD4 it's nowhere near as good as the msi gd 80 features wise it cant even do fan control beyond cpu header.

Anyway thought I'd weigh in that on this board it needs 1.35 VTT and 1.98 volts PLL to get the higher clocks stable.

Am currently adaptive voltage maxing out at 1.440 cpu vcore and 1.98 PLL 1.35 VTT 4.1ghz.

There's no difference really even to the intel pentium K which downvolts to around 1 volt same as this i5 750 downvolts to under C states (so much for haswell being less power hungry)

Amazing really that such an old chip is still good enough, moral of the story is ANY quad core at 4ghz + is good enough for anything really albeit not high end card setups.

Don't be scared of 1.45 volts on these pretty sure they are safe even up to 1.5 volts.
 
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To be fair the only reason ive gone from a i7-950 at 4.4Ghz to a 5820 is access to better motherbaord features like m2 ssd and full speed sata 3 etc.

Performance difference on the new chip isnt noticable unless doing encoding and stuff and the odd game which makes use of the cores.
 
melvis said:
mine can get 3.7 easily on 1.25 volts, Ive taken to running it at 3.4 lately though to keep the hsf from getting too loud as the summers started.
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Oh god I know this feeling, I went from a 2500k that could handle 4.6 at stock volts... my 4670k on the other hand only handles 4.5 at 1.23V... not much of a speed loss but wayyyy more volts.
 
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