Finding out equivalent salaries (asking for a pay rise)....

[R.O.S.S.I]

Just in the process of putting together a case for a pay rise at work based on my the depth and scope of my role being much greater than what is outlined on my job description and what I did when I started.

However, because the job covers a few areas i'm finding it difficult to find comparable roles in other organisations to compare salaries.

My job is split into 3 areas and I can find salaries for each individual role in other organisations but not as a combined role - i'm the sole responsible IT Admin, the lead for Design & Digital Media and the lead for our Social Media & Web.

What would be the best way to approach it do you think? I can find salaries for if I was doing one aspect of it in another organisation and the salaries are generally more than what I am paid to do all 3 at current. Should I just highlight all of these roles and their associated salaries?

I enjoy where I'm working however do feel that my salary is falling short of the market rates and having spoke to other senior members of staff they agree that I should be paid more - I just need to present this to the senior management in a constructive way and don't want to come across as a bit of a spoilt kid!

 

[yhack]

I enjoy where I'm working however do feel that my salary is falling short of the market rates and having spoke to other senior members of staff they agree that I should be paid more

Just say something like that. Also research social engineering.

 

[Raumarik]

If there are any public sector jobs you think are on a par with some/part of your job you could submit a freedom of information request to find out the salaries of those doing them and the duties they perform.

It does sound like quite a unique scope though, not sure you'd find a job that covers them as most will be more focused in each area.

 

[Gibbs]

What happens if you take a 3rd from the wages in the 3 separate jobs and add them together.

It is more than your currently on?

If not.......then ignore me

 

[agnes]

Be careful what you discuss with work colleagues, never fall into the trap of thinking you can trust anyone at work with stuff like that.

When money is involved they will stab you in the back to get more.

I would simply state what you are saying. You are happy, enjoy the job and don't with to leave, but the money is a little tight. What can they do?

The employer will either want to pay more to keep you on as a valuable resource, or turn you down. In which case you know you don't mean too much to them and move on.

 

[R.O.S.S.I]

What happens if you take a 3rd from the wages in the 3 separate jobs and add them together.

It is more than your currently on?

If not.......then ignore me

I could do that, however my argument is that even though it is a 'third' of my job I am still expected to have the skills and experience to deal with any aspect of that role pretty much as I am the one responsible for it.

So whilst my job is split up into 3 I'd still need to have the same amount of skills and knowledge to do the job as if I was doing them as a separate role in another organisation.

I'm not saying I want cumulatively what each job would pay separately as my total wage, just something that reflects more what I actually do!

 

[R.O.S.S.I]

Be careful what you discuss with work colleagues, never fall into the trap of thinking you can trust anyone at work with stuff like that.

When money is involved they will stab you in the back to get more.

I would simply state what you are saying. You are happy, enjoy the job and don't with to leave, but the money is a little tight. What can they do?

The employer will either want to pay more to keep you on as a valuable resource, or turn you down. In which case you know you don't mean too much to them and move on.

These people I trust 100% and are not doing any role similar to mine at all so can't really see any way in which it will be beneficial for them to 'stab me in the back!'

 

[Gibbs]

I could do that, however my argument is that even though it is a 'third' of my job I am still expected to have the skills and experience to deal with any aspect of that role pretty much as I am the one responsible for it.

So whilst my job is split up into 3 I'd still need to have the same amount of skills and knowledge to do the job as if I was doing them as a separate role in another organisation.

I'm not saying I want cumulatively what each job would pay separately as my total wage, just something that reflects more what I actually do!

You would still get a figure that you can work on. You have to accept that even thought you have the skills and knowledge off 3 jobs, they wont want to pay you for it.

I would take the 3rds calculation and add 10 or 20%, what ever you think is fair. I cant see another way to be honest without your employer telling you to wise up

 

[~Divine~Wind~]

always remember people at work are colleagues not friends!

Research current job opportunities that are covered under your job description.

 

[Raumarik]

always remember people at work are colleagues not friends.

Rule of thumb for me is if they've never been to my house or me to theirs for an evenings drinking or out to the pub then they aren't friends, regardless of how friendly they seem.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

I enjoy where I'm working however do feel that my salary is falling short of the market rates

Sorry for the <snip> but I think you've already said that you don't know how to gauge the market rate given the nature of your role so this boils down to wanting to earn more but without any objective evidence of why. There are a huge number of things which come in to play here.

 

[AJK]

My job is split into 3 areas and I can find salaries for each individual role in other organisations but not as a combined role - i'm the sole responsible IT Admin, the lead for Design & Digital Media and the lead for our Social Media & Web.

Obviously I don't know your experience and career achievements, so apologies if I'm short-selling you, but it's often the case that when you're taking on three quite varied responsibilities such as you describe, you're not offering as much specialist knowledge as any one of those roles would offer individually - meaning that directly comparing what you earn to the salary of, say, a "Digital Media Manager" or "Lead Designer" isn't accurate (as you'd never get those jobs).

Of course, the flip side of that coin is that you're offering at least some level of service in each of those three areas, all for the low low price of a single full-time employee, one that the company might not be able to replace without hiring additional staff. So there's definitely room to negotiate!

I enjoy where I'm working however do feel that my salary is falling short of the market rates and having spoke to other senior members of staff they agree that I should be paid more - I just need to present this to the senior management in a constructive way and don't want to come across as a bit of a spoilt kid!

As others have mentioned, I think the holistic approach may be the best one here. Focus on the value you add to several different key areas of the business. Highlight successes you've had since the last time you had a pay rise (or since you started if you've never had one!), especially where you've been responsible for something which has been a great success for the business, or where you've gone above and beyond such as offering out of hours support, or just staying late to work on things, that kind of stuff.

You're going to find it difficult to justify "market rates" since I imagine there aren't that many jobs going for an IT Admin/Digital Media/Designer/Social Media/Web Person.

Salary negotiations are exactly that - you can't just ask and expect to receive. Are you prepared to offer something to sweeten the pot? For example, ideas for further improvement in the areas you work in, streamlined processes to improve efficiency, etc.