Naked Rambler Jailed

RDM said:
You really have no idea what evolution is do you?
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Ahahahahaha :D Are you for real?

Do you realise humanity is a globe traversing species, not bound by any climate or boundaries?

Therefore we evolved to "wear clothes" because we were smart enough to select our "coat" for the climate we are travelling to, and not be limited by some hereditary coat.

If we didn't evolve into wearing clothes we'd still have ****loads of fur and be limited to living as monkeys in Africa.

You must be very mentally ill if you think the reason humans wear clothes is just because social reasons. :D

By the way evolution is a social concept too you know, not just monkeys turning into humans as you seem to think.
 
asim18 said:
Ahahahahaha :D Are you for real?

Do you realise humanity is a globe traversing species, not bound by any climate or boundaries?

Therefore we evolved to "wear clothes" because we were smart enough to select our "coat" for the climate we are travelling to, and not be limited by some hereditary coat.

If we didn't evolve into wearing clothes we'd still have ****loads of fur and be limited to living as monkeys in Africa.

You must be very mentally ill if you think the reason humans wear clothes is just because social reasons. :D

By the way evolution is a social concept too you know, not just monkeys turning into humans as you seem to think.
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Yep, more proof you really have no idea about what evolution is...
 
asim18 said:
Ahahahahaha :D Are you for real?

Do you realise humanity is a globe traversing species, not bound by any climate or boundaries?

Therefore we evolved to "wear clothes" because we were smart enough to select our "coat" for the climate we are travelling to, and not be limited by some hereditary coat.

If we didn't evolve into wearing clothes we'd still have ****loads of fur and be limited to living as monkeys in Africa.

You must be very mentally ill if you think the reason humans wear clothes is just because social reasons. :D

By the way evolution is a social concept too you know, not just monkeys turning into humans as you seem to think.
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Astounding. It's like you reached for the branch with your point on, slipped and just grabbed anything on the way down...
 
RDM said:
Yep, more proof you really have no idea about what evolution is...
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Not sure if serious or just trolling me to waste my time :o

Anyway for the benefit of others,

Humanity has less hair than relative animals due to declination of the gene KRTHAP1. So it's a genetic reason we don't have much hair.

Therefore, let us imagine ourselves when humanity was in Africa with black skin and little or no fur left due to this gradual genetic mutation based on environmental factors. If we didn't put on some clothes before deciding to explore and expand into the world we would have failed. And it is not surprising if certain tribes attempted to explore without covering up and failed (natural selection).

Humanity has intelligently adapted to the whole world. We don't have fur because when we moved out of Africa we evolved into using the fur of dead animals as clothing to protect us from extreme climates. The knowledge of using clothing as a tool to intelligently adapt to varying climate has accrued over thousands of years of evolution. This is why a monkey cannot simply stroll into Antarctica and live happily ever after.

If you are like RDM and think that 99% of humanity wears some sort of clothing just because the law tells us to, you couldn't be more wrong. The use of clothing for protection and adaptation to climate is hard wired into our genes, just like the use of fire to cook food before eating is hard wired into our genes, yep humanity used to eat raw meat before we discovered fire, but try that today and you will die.

But don't take my word for it. If RDM loses all his clothes and freezes to death that would be natural selection before your very eyes :D. Or maybe if he's smart enough to do it gradually and doesn't manage to kill himself with hypothermia, maybe his following generations will devolve to having loads of hair again. Yep, in 200,000 years time we will have an "RDM's special race" who decided to stop wearing clothes, and whose women will look like a half-shaved pussycat.

Sources:
A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_hair#Evolution
B: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/19/s...ir-fur-parted-ways.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
 
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he is being an arse about it..he is simply not willing to compromise

there are places he can go to and be naked in public with other naked people

its banned out right so why doesn't he just make use of said places then wear clothes where other people do

if everybody did what they feel like the world would be in chaos...but people provide most things that most people want to do...and in places where its safe to do so and amongst other like minded people
 
FTM said:
he is being an arse about it..he is simply not willing to compromise

there are places he can go to and be naked in public with other naked people

its banned out right so why doesn't he just make use of said places then wear clothes where other people do

if everybody did what they feel like the world would be in chaos...but people provide most things that most people want to do...and in places where its safe to do so and amongst other like minded people
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However if we just kept the basics of common/civil law + a few others, the world wouldn't be chaotic and we'd also be free ;)
 
The story reminds me of when I (and amusingly a Scottish friend) moved to Munich. We went to a swimming pool and people of different sexes were getting changed in front of each other and we were giggling like schoolchildren at the sight of a naked body. It's pretty sad how repressed we still are in Britain.

A few years living there where you cycle along the river and see *omg* lots of naked people and you realise that there is nothing sinister about it. I think if anything making nudity a problem is actually contributing to a problem in this country. Sure you don't see a lot of naked people over here, it's freezing most of the time.
 
Em3bbs said:
The story reminds me of when I (and amusingly a Scottish friend) moved to Munich. We went to a swimming pool and people of different sexes were getting changed in front of each other and we were giggling like schoolchildren at the sight of a naked body. It's pretty sad how repressed we still are in Britain.

A few years living there where you cycle along the river and see *omg* lots of naked people and you realise that there is nothing sinister about it. I think if anything making nudity a problem is actually contributing to a problem in this country. Sure you don't see a lot of naked people over here, it's freezing most of the time.
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It's all about public order, yes sometimes things need to be enforced (rioting etc.) however things like swearing in public, nudity etc. is absolutely laughable that the government think they're different than the rest of us.

"Hey you lot down there, we have bigger pay checks therefore we get to dictate what words you cannot say!"
 
Hyburnate said:
Is it wrong I don't see the problem? :S
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Admiral Ackbar would have saved you there buddy.

In all honesty though, no, the only reason it would be a problem is because apparently anyone who looks at a child that is not their own spawn is a paedo.
 
asim18 said:
So according to that logic, it's ridiculous to criminalize pedophilic actions? After all they were "born it" and recognizing pedophilia is just an evolutionary concept anyway just like clothing. Oh and that serial killer who's brain is wired so he enjoys shedding blood, but it's OK because that's just how he was born eh.


But no, lets just throw away our evolution and go back to marrying children like everyone did during the time of Mohammed. And lets completely throw away our clothes, even worse than our ancestors who at least managed to cover up their penises with a rag.
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lol you're an idiot.

Is every human born with pedophilic or psychopathic tendencies? No.

Is every human born with a human body? Yes.

Do pedophilic and psychopathic cause immediate physical or life threatening danger to others? Yes.

Does the sight of a human body cause immediate physical or life threatening danger to others? No.

You are too stupid to comprehend this, so you are too stupid to continue the conversation. Please don't reply.
 
Deific said:
lol you're an idiot.

Is every human born with pedophilic or psychopathic tendencies? No.

Is every human born with a human body? Yes.

Do pedophilic and psychopathic cause immediate physical or life threatening danger to others? Yes.

Does the sight of a human body cause immediate physical or life threatening danger to others? No.

You are too stupid to comprehend this, so you are too stupid to continue the conversation. Please don't reply.
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That's a different logical concept though.

The one I replied to stated that "if you're born like it then it's fine."


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Deific said:
Do pedophilic and psychopathic cause immediate physical or life threatening danger to others? Yes.
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The answer is no. Because it's only dangerous if the perpetrator is in a situation where he believes he will be able to partake in his pleasure without some kind of consequence. Ie. "get away with it."

E.g.

1. Leave a child unattended in a hotel room, there is only potential immediate danger, because of the situation.

2. Have your child with you in a hotel room, there is NO immediate danger at all, because of the situation.
 
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fez said:
In all honesty though, no, the only reason it would be a problem is because apparently anyone who looks at a child that is not their own spawn is a paedo.
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That's a problem with society though -_-

Today there's a different meanings to pedophilia, the meaning in the eye of the law and the meaning in the eye of society.
 
Biohazard said:
Lets expand a little, if adults being naked in the company of minors is acceptable, would everyone be agreeable to naked children in the streets by the same measure?
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I know you're Scottish and all.but I refuse to accept you have never been to a beach and seen this :/
 
asim18 said:
and that serial killer who's brain is wired so he enjoys shedding blood, but it's OK because that's just how he was born eh.


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well that is why if a serial killer is mentally Ill we can't send him to jail.......



also you say by getting rid of clothes we're throwing away evolution, but now we've"evolved" (to use you're *******ised description of.evolution) central hearing and air conditioning which means we can control temperature easily.this negating.the need to wear clothes in indoor spaces.
 
Tefal said:
I know you're Scottish and all.but I refuse to accept you have never been to a beach and seen this :/
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I lived on a beach promenade for several years in Edinburgh, I probably witnessed a lot more nude adults than children, so perhaps my early years hormonal puberty had a distorting influence on my attention..

I'm not saying that this does not happen, obviously it does, but in socially expected situations. Such as the one you describe.

How about in an restaurant, or in close proximity such as public transport, library place of work and so on? Would that feel so normal?

I was fortunate to have a significantly younger brother and sister in that I could enjoy a sort of parenthood as a responsible older brother supporting my mother with my father away overseas in the forces, so I am aware of how children explore their bodies during their early years development as an example.

Is that something you want to sit and gaze at on the way to work?

Scotland also has the most beautiful beaches in the UK by a long stretch. ;)
 
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